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Re: 'Murica

Post by Witness » Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:42 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
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Hey buddy, the internet isn't the only "technology". :p
The funding program they milked seems to be designed for that (https://www.nbcnewyork.com/investigatio ... 99051.html):
Prosecutors said the suspects lied to claim they were serving as independent consultants and vendors to help obtain and provide telecommunication services to private religious school students across Rockland County.
[…]
"This indictment is important not only because fraudsters should be held to account for their crimes, but also because the next generation of students should have access to telecommunication services, internet access, and related equipment, irrespective of their means and in spite of the fact that people like the defendants seek to line their own pockets at the expense of underprivileged children,” said U.S. Attorney Geoffrey Berman.
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In one case, over $500,000 in video conferencing equipment was ordered for a day-care center serving toddlers 2-4 years old. The FBI said that equipment order would “serve no real purpose for the student population.”
Aaaaaaand… it's nothing new: Rockland County, NY - FBI Raids Ramapo In Yeshivah Education E-Rate Grant Probe (2016)

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Re: 'Murica

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:58 pm

Yeah I know, they've been doing it for a long time (or stuff much like it) and I knew about it since the 1970s.

But I had to get in just one lick about the Sabbath fridge. :lmao:
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Re: 'Murica

Post by Witness » Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:03 am

↑ Religion + technology = poetry? :P

I think we already had a thread about shabbat-proof switches, no? :mrgreen:

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Re: 'Murica

Post by Witness » Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:58 pm

Soaring bankruptcy rates signal a 'coming storm of broke elderly,' study finds

Older Americans are filing for bankruptcy at more than double the rate of just 25 years ago, a sign of a "coming storm of broke elderly," a new study finds.

The rate of people 65 and over filing for bankruptcy grew nearly 204 percent from 1991 to 2016, a study published by the Social Science Research Network found, and the percentage of seniors among all U.S. bankruptcy filers increased by nearly five times over the same period. [200 % increase = double the rate? :roll: ]

Researchers looking at data from the Consumer Bankruptcy Project found that high health care costs, combined with reduced incomes and the widespread decline of pensions, are all contributing to the growing trend of "financially broken retirees."

Deborah Thorne, one of the study's authors from the University of Idaho, said "it's not an individual's fault" when they have to file for bankruptcy, citing issues with retirement systems and Medicare.

Thorne said her research found that many older people struggling financially also feel that society seems unconcerned with their plight.

"We’ve become uncaring about what they’re confronting," she said.
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Re: 'Murica

Post by Grammatron » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:44 am

Those columns are not alike

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Re: 'Murica

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Re: 'Murica

Post by xouper » Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:46 am

Witness wrote:
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Since this is a forum for skepticism and critical thinking, I'll offer the following relevant observations.

Those graphs use a common tactic intended to mislead.

The y-axis is cherry-picked rather than normalized, thus exaggerating the differences.

Most people don't bother looking at the scale of the y-axis and thus don't notice that they are being tricked into thinking the divergence is larger than it really is.

It would be more honest to draw all four lines on the same graph and then start the y-axis at zero.

This is just one way people with an agenda Lie with Statistics.

However, if the main point was to show there's a significant difference between the trends in the US and Europe, that point is not obscured by the axis trickery. However, the magnitude of the trend IS obfuscated.

Since no commentary was offered, it is (apparently) left to the reader to draw any inferences from the graphs. I suspect not everyone will draw the same inferences.

To me, I ask, yeah, so what? What's your point?

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Re: 'Murica

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Re: 'Murica

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Re: 'Murica

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Re: 'Murica

Post by Giz » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:02 pm

Damn. Thought it wasn't going to reach Atlanta!

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Re: 'Murica

Post by Doctor X » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:53 pm

Giz wrote:
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Re: 'Murica

Post by Giz » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:59 pm

I have about a hundred 100 ft tall trees on my property (small house, big trees ). A few years ago, there was a big tropical storm and with the high winds the trees were bending over the house. 20 degrees, now 30 degrees more than normal. Looked like they were all going to fall on us.

Turned on the TV for some escapism, and what was on. .. Gone with the Wind.


True story. In the rain.

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Re: 'Murica

Post by WildCat » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:03 am

Giz wrote:
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Turned on the TV for some escapism, and what was on. .. Gone with the Wind.
Per federal law that movie must be shown in Georgia at least 5 times per year.
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Re: 'Murica

Post by Witness » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:54 am

Meet the Creationist Helping to Change Arizona School Standards on Evolution

Arizona Superintendent Diane Douglas tapped a young-earth creationist to serve last month on a committee tasked with revising the state's science curriculum standards on evolution.

Joseph Kezele, the president of the Arizona Origin Science Association, is a staunch believer in the idea that enough scientific evidence exists to back up the biblical story of creation. Douglas appointed him to an eight-member special working group at the Arizona Department of Education that completed a final review of the draft evolution teaching standards on August 30.

Kezele teaches biology at Arizona Christian University in Phoenix. He advocates teaching his version of "established, real science" in classrooms.

Evolution, he said, is a false explanation for life and should be taught so that students "can defend against it, if they want to."

"I'm not saying to put the Bible into the classroom, although the real science will confirm the Bible," Kezele told Phoenix New Times in an interview on Wednesday. "Students can draw their own conclusions when they see what the real science actually shows."
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/cr ... m-10820376

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Re: 'Murica

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:22 am

Unlike in the UK, where the fundamentalist demand and get their own separate state funded schools.
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Re: 'Murica

Post by Witness » Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:00 pm

And for atheists? :lmao:

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Re: 'Murica

Post by sparks » Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:07 pm

We have the pleasure of getting the finger from the religulous!
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Re: 'Murica

Post by Pyrrho » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:42 pm


The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.

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Re: 'Murica

Post by Doctor X » Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:54 am

Yeah, that is not showing up.

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