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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Post by Anaxagoras » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:20 am

First sentence handed down:

Corey Lequieu becomes first Oregon standoff defendant sent to prison in conspiracy case
Corey Lequieu became the first defendant Tuesday to be sentenced in the federal conspiracy case stemming from the armed takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in January.

U.S. District Judge Anna J. Brown sent Lequieu to prison for 2 ½ years followed by three years of supervised release. Lequieu, in custody in the Multnomah County Jail, also must pay restitution in an amount to be determined later.

In May, Lequieu, 46, became the first of 26 standoff defendants charged with conspiracy to plead guilty. He admitted to impeding federal employees through threats, intimidation or force from working at the refuge outside Burns.

The conspiracy charge carries a maximum sentence of six years in prison, but federal prosecutors recommended that Lequieu serve less time as part of a plea agreement and under sentencing guidelines. Assistant U.S. Attorney Craig Gabriel said the government considered that Lequieu was the first in the case to take responsibility when making the offer.

Brown agreed that the government's recommendation was fair.

Gabriel dismissed Lequieu's remaining count of possessing a firearm in a federal facility. The government, both in Oregon and Nevada, also agreed not to file felon in possession of a firearm charges against Lequieu, Gabriel said. Lequieu, of Fallon, Nevada, had ties to the 2014 Cliven Bundy standoff near Bunkerville.

Lequieu's defense attorney, Ramon Pagan, told the court that he and his client were grateful that they reached an agreement with the government without Lequieu agreeing to testify against other defendants in the case.
They could have piled on more charges including felon in possession of a gun but they didn't in exchange for a guilty plea.
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Post by Anaxagoras » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:20 am

First sentence handed down:

Corey Lequieu becomes first Oregon standoff defendant sent to prison in conspiracy case
Corey Lequieu became the first defendant Tuesday to be sentenced in the federal conspiracy case stemming from the armed takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in January.

U.S. District Judge Anna J. Brown sent Lequieu to prison for 2 ½ years followed by three years of supervised release. Lequieu, in custody in the Multnomah County Jail, also must pay restitution in an amount to be determined later.

In May, Lequieu, 46, became the first of 26 standoff defendants charged with conspiracy to plead guilty. He admitted to impeding federal employees through threats, intimidation or force from working at the refuge outside Burns.

The conspiracy charge carries a maximum sentence of six years in prison, but federal prosecutors recommended that Lequieu serve less time as part of a plea agreement and under sentencing guidelines. Assistant U.S. Attorney Craig Gabriel said the government considered that Lequieu was the first in the case to take responsibility when making the offer.

Brown agreed that the government's recommendation was fair.

Gabriel dismissed Lequieu's remaining count of possessing a firearm in a federal facility. The government, both in Oregon and Nevada, also agreed not to file felon in possession of a firearm charges against Lequieu, Gabriel said. Lequieu, of Fallon, Nevada, had ties to the 2014 Cliven Bundy standoff near Bunkerville.

Lequieu's defense attorney, Ramon Pagan, told the court that he and his client were grateful that they reached an agreement with the government without Lequieu agreeing to testify against other defendants in the case.
They could have piled on more charges including felon in possession of a gun but they didn't in exchange for a guilty plea.
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Post by Doctor X » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:52 am

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CLEARLY he is far more intelligent than the rest of the Ship of Fools. He listened to his lawyer. He should be giving the hand-job to his lawyer. He was so fucked . . . the dropping of the various state felony charges . . . they were the Mexican Gangsters with Razor Blades between Their Fingers We Invited because Fuck You outside the door waiting for their turn.

And they were sent away.

I do not expect The Rest to be so kindly treated unless:
  • 1. They shut the fuck up and listen to their lawyers.
    2. The Feds are more interested in this "going away" than making a Requiring a Colostomy Bag--Which We will Still Fuck--Example out of them.
Given the letter above, I fear that will not be the case. But, as a 用心棒 said. . . .

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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:32 am

So the trial is over (ended last week) and the jury is now deliberating. There may be an issue with one (or more) of the jurors though:

Juror Questioned Over Bias Will Likely Continue In Malheur Case
U.S. District Court Judge Anna Brown said, for now, she won’t dismiss a juror in the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge occupation trial, after that person was accused by another juror of being biased.

A juror in the trial of Ammon Bundy and six others sent a note to the judge Tuesday, accusing another juror of being biased because he used to work for the Bureau of Land Management.

Brown met with the juror and attorneys in the case to discuss the issue. The accused juror, No. 11, said his former employment would not influence his decisions. He made similar statements during jury selection.
The jurors had some questions for the judge which suggest the possibility of an impasse.

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"I am very biased" does sound like a strange thing for a juror to say now rather than during the jury selection!
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Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:22 am

So I looked it up and there are eight alternate jurors, so the judge must have been pretty sure that this wasn't a disqualifying issue. If there was any doubt, they should have replaced the juror. Also, it was already known that one of them was a former BLM employee, so that was already disclosed and is not a new revelation:
After three long days filled with tedious interviews, 12 trial jurors — eight women and four men — and eight alternate jurors have been selected for the trial of Ammon Bundy and six other defendants.

The jury is mostly white and includes a Mormon mother of four from Eugene as well as a former Bureau of Land Management firefighter from Baker City, who said the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in January “happened in my backyard.”

Another juror, a woman from Hood River, claimed she doesn’t read the news and lives “in a world of art,” as an explanation for her limited knowledge about the occupation.

The identities of the jurors are withheld to protect them from the public.

Four jurors are from the Portland metro area. Other jurors include an African-American man from Klamath Falls, a state employee, a woman who works at Boeing and another juror who lives in St. Helens.

One juror seated in the case works at Les Schwab, the tire store chain. He described his initial reaction after getting the jury summons as “oh gosh,” but claimed in court this week that he was “excited.”

Nearly 100 potential jurors from all over Oregon were questioned as part of the jury selection process. U.S. District Court Judge Anna Brown dismissed some for hardship, while others were dismissed for potential prejudice. Defense attorneys said it’s unusual to get a jury in Portland that’s from all over the state.
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Post by Pyrrho » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:28 pm

Jury found them not guilty.

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-stando ... direc.html
Update at 4:10 p.m.: All defendants found not guilty.

Update: The jury reported to the court Thursday afternoon that it has reached consensus on all but one charge. The jury sent a note to the judge that members have "exhausted all discussion" and can't come to an agreement, and that "further deliberation would not help."
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:55 pm

Pyrrho wrote:Jury found them not guilty.
Somehow related to the high proportion of agents provocateur among the group and people not having it?
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Post by Anaxagoras » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:56 pm

Wow.
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Post by Anaxagoras » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:57 pm

I guess the ones who pled guilty feel like chumps now.
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Post by Anaxagoras » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:11 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Pyrrho wrote:Jury found them not guilty.
Somehow related to the high proportion of agents provocateur among the group and people not having it?
What?? Who are these agents you are talking about?

I think it's related to some kind of ideologue(s) on the jury. The facts of the case were crystal clear.
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Post by WildCat » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:57 am

I can't help but think that part of the reason for the "not guilty" verdict was the way the government just let them be for such a long time. If the government didn't care enough about it to move in right away why should the jurors convict?
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Post by WildCat » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:59 am

Ammon Bundy's attorney was upset that he wouldn't be freed since he still has charges in Nevada. He was tasered and tackled in the courtroom and taken into custody.
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Post by Doctor X » Fri Oct 28, 2016 4:18 am

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Post by Pyrrho » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:14 am

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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Post by ed » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:24 am

I think that this was a classic PR disaster and reflects the basic tone deafness of the feds.

They are RIGHT, they have THE LAW on their side and they stood ready to put these guys away for life. To which the normal folks of the county said fuck off, go back to DC where you came from and leave us alone.
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Post by gnome » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:46 pm

It seems like it might be a case of jury nullification. Damned if I can figure out where the prosecution got the law wrong.
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Post by Rob Lister » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:19 pm

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Post by Pyrrho » Fri Oct 28, 2016 4:19 pm

Replacing a juror and telling the jury to discard all previous deliberations seems kind of odd, but I defer to actual lawyers.

The verdict was almost immediately cast as a classic example of white privilege. "If a bunch of brothers carrying guns had taken over the place..." and comparisons to the ongoing pipeline protests, etc.

I dunno. Most of the halfwit defendants will go on about their halfwit lives, only with media attention for a while and maybe some of them will make some money on their stories. Probably the only good thing is that there will only be one martyr, LaVoy Finicum, who was probably the most stupid, instead of eight, although the Bundy boys still have a chance at incarcerated stardom.
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Post by Grammatron » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:28 pm

I know you deferred to an actual lawyer, but I have a keyboard and internet so...

NPR framed it as a failure by the Feds in several ways. Firstly, they charged them with the most book-throwy thing possible and then they failed to prove it. It's hard to say they were intimidating Federal employees from doing their job when there were no Federal employees there and the Feds took weeks before acting.

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Post by Pyrrho » Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:57 pm

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