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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Postby Rob Lister » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:48 am

Jury Deals Massive Setback to Bundy Standoff Prosecutors
They refused to convict 4 defendants
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Postby ed » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:28 pm

Nullification.

Fuck you, Washington.
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Postby gnome » Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:21 pm

Bear in mind, they started (cleverly, I think) with the 4 weakest cases. There are more people coming up. Now, if they have half-decent lawyers, they have a clue what kind of arguments connected with jurors and what didn't, and can step up their game for the higher stakes prosecutions.
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Postby WildCat » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:24 pm

ed wrote:Nullification.

Fuck you, Washington.

RTFS.

The trial was in Las Vegas.
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Postby WildCat » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:27 pm

As I said last time, Obama fucked up by allowing them to do their thing for many months. It's hard to claim they were a big threat, but not big enough of a threat to actually do anything about.
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Postby gnome » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:10 pm

I thought it was a decent lesson learned from Waco. Taking one's time in the face of a threat does not mean it wasn't a threat. It means that it was better not to escalate--in fact, bringing them to justice later instead of a bloody standoff is a preferred outcome, isn't it?
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Postby ed » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:43 pm

WildCat wrote:
ed wrote:Nullification.

Fuck you, Washington.

RTFS.

The trial was in Las Vegas.


The feds (Washington) brought the charges. Ergo "fuck you Washington".
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Postby Anaxagoras » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:20 am

Judge declares mistrial in case of Nevada rancher's standoff with federal government

A federal judge declared a mistrial Wednesday in the case involving Cliven Bundy and two of his sons after she found that prosecutors "willfully" failed to turn over evidence related to an armed standoff three years ago.

U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro pointed to several violations of the Brady rule — which requires prosecutors to disclose evidence that could be favorable to a defendant. She then called in jurors and dismissed them.

"It was not possible to go forward with the case," Navarro told the jurors.

The ruling marked yet another setback for federal prosecutors, who have struggled to obtain convictions against the Bundy family and its supporters. The cases have become a rallying point for those who believe the federal government has overstepped its authority by controlling public lands operated by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management.

A spokeswoman with the U.S. attorney's office said it had no comment on Navarro's decision.

Prosecutors have the opportunity to retry the case, and the judge told both sides to submit briefs by Dec. 29. Navarro told the packed courtroom she would also rule on whether it would be a mistrial with prejudice. That decision would effectively end the possibility of a new trial for Bundy, sons Ammon and Ryan and supporter Ryan Payne.


Prosecutors fucked it up again. :notsure:
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Postby ed » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:25 am

Fuck you Washington
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Postby gnome » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:38 am

No sympathy for the prosecutors. If you can't win without illegally holding back evidence, maybe you don't have a case in the first place.
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Postby ed » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:41 am

Well, RCC.2, comment? Do you see a pattern here? Hmmmmmmmmmmm?
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:13 am

At least it shows justice is occasionally possible, though prosecutors have nothing to do with it.
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Postby Pyrrho » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:56 am

New trial is scheduled for February.
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Postby Doctor X » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:37 pm

"No, it ain't!"

Same judge dismissed all charges "with prejudice" and ordered Clive Bundy's immediate release.

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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Postby Anaxagoras » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:05 pm

I'm kinda speechless. I bet the ones who pled guilty feel like chumps.
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Re: Terrorists take over Federal building

Postby Grammatron » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:13 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:I'm kinda speechless. I bet the ones who pled guilty feel like chumps.


It's not that unexpected

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