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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:08 pm

The whole " inalienable right" thing is based on the assumption that there is such a thing as human nature.
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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Witness » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:26 pm

↑ And that "rights" exist somewhere in Philosophical Heaven©.

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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:16 am

Witness wrote:↑ And that "rights" exist somewhere in Philosophical Heaven©.
It shows up in the US Declaration of Independence too.

"Nature and Nature's God" -- Very Spinozaic.

However, because the appeal is to "nature" even atheists (like Thomas Paine) can play.

But not postmodernists, see? :coolspecs:
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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Witness » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:22 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:But not postmodernists, see? :coolspecs:
Not sure I grok that. :?

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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:25 am

Witness wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:But not postmodernists, see? :coolspecs:
Not sure I grok that. :?
Because they reject the concept of inherent human nature.
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Post by Witness » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:31 am

Ah, OK. Thought it was something about their peculiar stance on the meaning of words.

But how do they dare reject the narrative of Human Nature, hu?

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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Pyrrho » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:05 am

http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/01/yo ... egree.html
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Dear Sir,

Your letter is an insoluble puzzle to me. The handwriting is good and exhibits considerable character, and there are even traces of intelligence in what you say, yet the letter and the accompanying advertisements profess to be the work of the same hand. The person who wrote the advertisements is without doubt the most ignorant person now alive on the planet; also without doubt he is an idiot, an idiot of the 33rd degree, and scion of an ancestral procession of idiots stretching back to the Missing Link. It puzzles me to make out how the same hand could have constructed your letter and your advertisements. Puzzles fret me, puzzles annoy me, puzzles exasperate me; and always, for a moment, they arouse in me an unkind state of mind toward the person who has puzzled me. A few moments from now my resentment will have faded and passed and I shall probably even be praying for you; but while there is yet time I hasten to wish that you may take a dose of your own poison by mistake, and enter swiftly into the damnation which you and all other patent medicine assassins have so remorselessly earned and do so richly deserve.

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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:12 am

Witness wrote:Ah, OK. Thought it was something about their peculiar stance on the meaning of words.

But how do they dare reject the narrative of Human Nature, hu?
As distinct from fixing things by proclaiming so-called "Human Nature" has completely changed because it's This Year?

Or at the very least it can be sneered out of existence? :BigGrin3:
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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Witness » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:07 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:sneered out of existence? :BigGrin3:
Very apt! :figamagee:

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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by shemp » Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:23 am

If I had a hammer, I'd philosophize in the morning...
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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Witness » Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:57 am

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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Pyrrho » Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:33 pm

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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Mentat » Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:37 pm

Or somebody who got lost on their way to the bathroom.
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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by asthmatic camel » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:29 pm

John Humphrys says Thought for the Day message 'deeply boring'
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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Anaxagoras » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:41 am

asthmatic camel wrote:
John Humphrys says Thought for the Day message 'deeply boring'
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I didn't know about this, because I'm not British, but only the religious are allowed to give a "thought for the day" on the BBC? Something about that doesn't seem right to me.
Humphrys said if it was a slot for secular reflection, “I’d have less of a problem with it. Why can’t you have an atheist? Or an agnostic?”

The majority of contributors to Thought for the Day are Christian, although there are regular Muslim and Jewish contributors and occasional Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists. One of the most popular was Rabbi Lionel Blue, who contributed for 25 years until his death last December.

Anne Atkins, a regular Thought for the Day contributor for the past 21 years, said Humphrys’ view did not “stack with the facts”.

“One of the first I did – and this was in the days before email – prompted more than 1,000 posted letters of support, one of the biggest responses Today has ever had. It certainly isn’t boring,” she told the Guardian.

“One of the things I love about the slot is its diversity – different styles, different faiths, different ways of packaging a message. That’s the great richness of it.”

Atkins rejected the suggestion of including secular commentators: “It’s like arguing for a 20-line sonnet: it wouldn’t be Thought any more. There’s another two hours and 57 minutes of the Today programme, nearly all for non-believers.”

Humanists UK (formerly the British Humanist Society) has long argued that the slot should be open to non-religious thinkers and commentators. “The explicit exclusion of humanists and other non-religious people from Thought for the Day means that the huge body of philosophical, artistic, scientific, ethical, moral and much other thought drawn from the humanist tradition is ignored,” it has said.

Earlier this year the BBC was forced to issue a statement saying there were no plans to make changes to Thought for the Day after its incoming editor, Sarah Sands, said she admired religion but it was “robust enough to have challenges”.

A BBC spokesperson said: “Thought for the Day is a long-standing part of the Today schedule and an important part of Radio 4’s religious content – it will continue to be so. It features speakers from the world’s major faith traditions and regularly provokes a range of different views.”
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Post by Witness » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:33 am

"Inspirational" quotes (preferably in some florid font) aren't better.

Which is my thought of the day. :mrgreen:

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Post by Witness » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:38 am

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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Anaxagoras » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:48 am

If we take in our hand any volume; of divinity or school metaphysics, for instance; let us ask, "Does it contain any abstract reasoning concerning quantity or number?" No. "Does it contain any experimental reasoning concerning matter of fact and existence?" No. Commit it then to the flames: for it can contain nothing but sophistry and illusion.
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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Witness » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:01 am

Par le monde, il y a beaucoup plus de couillons que d'hommes.

François Rabelais (1483 - 1553)
Which I translate thus:
"In this world there are many more fuckwits than men." (Nihil novi sub sole. :mrgreen: )