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Re: A Thought for the Day

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Re: A Thought for the Day

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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Doctor X » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:13 pm

There is a Your Mom joke in there . . . except the gears are cleaner . . . no . . . they are newer . . . let me get back to youR MOM!

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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Anaxagoras » Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:52 pm

If you think about it too much there are a lot of exceptions.

I wouldn't be typing this with my dick, for example.
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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:53 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:52 pm
If you think about it too much there are a lot of exceptions.

I wouldn't be typing this with my dick, for example.
But you might if the price were right, unlike ... :BigGrin3:
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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Doctor X » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:11 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:52 pm
If you think about it too much there are a lot of exceptions.

I wouldn't be typing this with my dick, for example.
If I posted some tentacles?

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Re: A Thought for the Day

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“And what good has all your reading done you? Out of all the things you have read, how much has really stayed in your soul, what roots have grown there that will, in a good time, bring forth fruit? Examine your heart carefully. If you compare the whole of what you know with what you don’t know, you will find that your knowledge is like a small stream dried up in the summer heat compared to the ocean of your ignorance. And even granted that you do know a lot, what difference does it make?”
― Francesco Petrarca

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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by sparks » Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:31 pm

Thanks Witness!

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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Witness » Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:37 pm

sparks wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:31 pm
Thanks Witness!

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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by xouper » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:22 pm

“And what good has all your reading done you? Out of all the things you have read, how much has really stayed in your soul, what roots have grown there that will, in a good time, bring forth fruit? Examine your heart carefully. If you compare the whole of what you know with what you don’t know, you will find that your knowledge is like a small stream dried up in the summer heat compared to the ocean of your ignorance. And even granted that you do know a lot, what difference does it make?”
― Francesco Petrarca
I don't get his point.

As just one example, I know not to step in front of a moving vehicle, especially one with a spinning propeller.
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I suspect such knowledge can make a huge difference in one's pursuit of happiness.

Secondly, is he really arguing that because I will always have huge gaps in my knowledge, therefore I should not bother reading anything ever again?

I may not know much, but I know there is a flaw somewhere in that argument. I assume Doctor X knows the Latin name for that fallacy.

So let's assume Francesco Petrarca is not that stupid.

Should I then interpret his observations as sarcasm? What am I missing?

And will reading the answers to those questions make any difference at all?

:dunno:

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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by sparks » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:56 pm

Short answer: Nope. People will continue to ignore facts that don't fit their personal belief systems. In spite of reading, we all remain Dumbth.
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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by xouper » Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:22 pm

sparks wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:56 pm
Short answer: Nope.
Which of my four questions is that an answer to?

sparks wrote:
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Short answer: Nope. People will continue to ignore facts that don't fit their personal belief systems. In spite of reading, we all remain Dumbth.
Is that your translation of what Francesco Petrarca said?

How does that account for the usefulness of my knowledge not to step into a spinning airplane propeller?

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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by sparks » Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:57 pm

I'm so sorry you're so fucking literal. But that is your problem, not mine.

Now then:

End of discussion.

Thank you. :)
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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Witness » Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:18 am

xouper wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:22 pm
I don't get his point.
xoup, it's the "Thought for the Day" thread. Some questions are more interesting than their answers.

Think it over. :wink:

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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by xouper » Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:21 am

sparks wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:57 pm
I'm so sorry you're so fucking literal. But that is your problem, not mine.
Yes, that is my problem, not yours.

I'll try to remember that next time I am tempted to interpret your posts literally. So, thanks for the heads up.


sparks wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:57 pm
Now then:

End of discussion.

Thank you. :)
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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by xouper » Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:31 am

Witness wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:18 am
xouper wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:22 pm
I don't get his point.
xoup, it's the "Thought for the Day" thread. Some questions are more interesting than their answers.

Think it over. :wink:
I took your advice to think it over, regarding the thought you posted in the "thought for the day" thread. I even entertained a few meta-thoughts about it.

And I came up with seven ways to interpret your post. There may be more, but I stopped thinking about it at that point, especially since I sometimes have trouble counting past seven.

So, in your opinion, which of those ways is the intended meaning of your post quoting Francesco Petrarca? It's an interesting thought, for sure, but I would still like to know how you would like me to interpret it? What's your intended take away message?

Enquiring Minds Wanna Know™. :)

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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Witness » Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:41 am

Unerringly you went for the wrong point. :mrgreen:

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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by xouper » Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:27 am

Witness wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:41 am
Unerringly you went for the wrong point. :mrgreen:
That happens on occasion, especially when someone does not make it clear what their point is.

I am willing to learn from my mistakes if someone is willing to help me out rather that just ridicule poke fun at me.

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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Doctor X » Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:57 am

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Re: A Thought for the Day

Post by Anaxagoras » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:13 am

I learned a little about Petrarch in a class I took at Sophia University (in Japan) when I was "studying abroad".

A class basically about the historical period known as "The Renaissance." Class taught by a Jesuit monk (or priest, not sure what the proper term is). Several of the lecturers or professors there were Jesuits.
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