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Sailors rescued after 5 months at sea.

Postby Rob Lister » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:13 pm

This is fishy.

Women Lost at Sea Back on Land After 5 Months

Jennifer Appel and Tasha Fuiava touched foot on dry land for the first time since May over the weekend, and as they got their land legs back, they thanked those who'd rescued them after five months lost at sea. The women, who endured sharks and storms while drifting in the Pacific after their boat's motor and mast failed, spoke Sunday at a press conference in Okinawa, Japan, offering gratitude to the crew of the US Navy ship that rescued them Wednesday.
http://www.newser.com/story/250833/wome ... cuers.html

They also had two dogs. Which they never ate.

Presumably the brought a year's worth of food and a "water purifier" (I'm guessing a manual reverse osmosis pump). These certainly exist the but effort put into using them manually isn't ideal. For a typical watermaker, in a 24 hour a day pumping 40 strokes a minute you get about 5 gallons. But it's like filling a bicycle tire; you'd be lucky to do it for half an hour and you'd sweat out as much water as you make. They're not very practical.

I'm skeptical.

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Re: Sailors rescued after 5 months at sea.

Postby shemp » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:51 pm

If their story doesn't hold water, it shouldn't be too hard to sink it. But in any case, they are a couple of fucking idiots.
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Re: Sailors rescued after 5 months at sea.

Postby Witness » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:12 am

5 months? There should be enough barnacles under that boat to prove their story.

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Re: Sailors rescued after 5 months at sea.

Postby sparks » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:07 am

And they had no EPIRB?
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Re: Sailors rescued after 5 months at sea.

Postby Doctor X » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:20 am

I am not sure that something you put on your rectal barometer would help them in that situation, sparks. . . .

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Re: Sailors rescued after 5 months at sea.

Postby Anaxagoras » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:25 am

Two women and two dogs trapped on a boat for 5 months. What did they do to pass the time?
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Re: Sailors rescued after 5 months at sea.

Postby Doctor X » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:50 am

There is video you can download from Russian sites, Anax.





Or so I have read. . . .

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Re: Sailors rescued after 5 months at sea.

Postby sparks » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:15 pm

BWAHAHAHAHA........... (extra periods just for Listy. He enjoys them so.)
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Re: Sailors rescued after 5 months at sea.

Postby Rob Lister » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:28 pm

sparks wrote:BWAHAHAHAHA...


fify

In other news, their story is starting to fall apart

(Newser) – The story of two women from Hawaii rescued after being lost at sea for five months is beginning to seem incredible—as in difficult to believe. After they were picked up by the USS Ashland 900 miles southeast of Japan last week, Jennifer Appel and Tasha Fuiava said they faced storms and shark attacks and that there were times when they "absolutely" thought they would die. They didn't mention that they failed to use their Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacon, which would have immediately alerted rescuers to their location. A Coast Guard spokeswoman says the women claim they never used the emergency beacon because they never felt "truly in distress, like in a 24-hour period they were going to die."

Multiple other inconsistencies in the account have surfaced, including some that conflict with the "basic geography of the Pacific Ocean," the AP reports. The women say they departed Hawaii bound for Tahiti on May 3 and ran into a fearsome Force 11 storm the same day that "lasted for two nights and three days," but the National Weather Service says there were no storm systems near Hawaii around that time. The women have said their mast and motor failed, along with multiple methods of communication, though the Coast Guard says it made radio contact with their sailboat, the Sea Nymph, near Tahiti in June and they said they weren't in distress. One long-distance sailor tells People that many sailors find the women's story odd, because "there are so many holes in it that it just doesn't make any sense." (The two women are now back on land.)
http://www.newser.com/story/250889/wome ... eacon.html

It's unclear so far why they're lying, but they clearly are.

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Re: Sailors rescued after 5 months at sea.

Postby sparks » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:31 pm

15 seconds of fame? A book deal? HBO junk movie? Tentacle porn?
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Re: Sailors rescued after 5 months at sea.

Postby Rob Lister » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:09 pm

sparks wrote:15 seconds of fame? A book deal? HBO junk movie? Tentacle porn?


Yea, that sounds likely. They must be crazy to think they can escape skeptics though.

Fact is, you can't go even a single month on a boat in the Pacific without seeing several others.

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Re: Sailors rescued after 5 months at sea.

Postby shemp » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:26 pm

Perhaps they were shanghaied to work as slaves on a secret invisible Chinese fishing boat. Yeah, that's the ticket!
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Re: Sailors rescued after 5 months at sea.

Postby Doctor X » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:50 pm

By "assraping Chinamen?"

I hear they are the worst.

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Re: Sailors rescued after 5 months at sea.

Postby Anaxagoras » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:56 pm

sparks wrote:15 seconds of fame? A book deal? HBO junk movie? Tentacle porn?


Must be the 15 seconds of fame thing, which perhaps they hoped to parlay into those other things.

Well, at least it made for a good exercise in skeptical thinking. When I saw photos of the women I thought, those don't look like people who have been lost at sea for 5 months.
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Re: Sailors rescued after 5 months at sea.

Postby Pyrrho » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:01 am

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... s-stranger

But in subsequent interviews and a U.S. Coast Guard review of the incident, Appel confirmed that the pair had an Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacon, or EPIRB – but they never turned it on.

Why not? Appel told The Associated Press that in her experience, the beacons should be used only when sailors are in imminent danger and could die within 24 hours.

"Our hull was solid, we were floating, we had food, we had water, and we had limited maneuverable capacity," Appel said. "All those things did not say we are going to die. All that said, it's going to take us a whole lot longer to get where we're going."

"EPIRB calls are for people who are in an immediate life threatening scenario," Appel wrote in a statement to ABC News. "It would be shameful to call on the USCG resources when not in imminent peril and allow someone else to perish because of it."

Instead of making a mayday call, Appel told ABC that they used a "pan-pan call" to let the Coast Guard and other boats know that the Sea Nymph had issues "but they are not immediately life-threatening." They thought they had 200 miles of reception on their radio, but discovered after their rescue that antenna issues meant they had only 1-2 nautical miles of reception.


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Re: Sailors rescued after 5 months at sea.

Postby Anaxagoras » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:10 am

Have they found any people who know these women in real life? Where do they live? I wonder if either of them have social media accounts or email accounts, or phones even. Could you go without the internet for five months so as to be consistent with your story?
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Re: Sailors rescued after 5 months at sea.

Postby shemp » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:22 am

It's possible they're telling the truth. There's no law against being stupid fucks who couldn't navigate their way out of a paper bag.
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Re: Sailors rescued after 5 months at sea.

Postby Witness » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:09 am

Anaxagoras wrote:Have they found any people who know these women in real life? Where do they live?

I also wondered about that: they set sail for a one month trip, how come nobody started inquiring / alerted some authorities when they didn't show up?

Anaxagoras wrote:I wonder if either of them have social media accounts or email accounts, or phones even. Could you go without the internet for five months so as to be consistent with your story?

Good point. From the press I gather that they had six (!) different means of communication (not counting the radio-buoy they didn't want to use) which all went dead. Strains credulity.

We'll see if some media trace surfaces. :mrgreen:

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Re: Sailors rescued after 5 months at sea.

Postby sparks » Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:15 am

I'm calling this one: Fake. These two are attention whores.
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Re: Sailors rescued after 5 months at sea.

Postby Doctor X » Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:52 am

The fact they complain about "SHARK ATTACKS" and the like, yet, did not feel scared enough to use the sparks Over Rectal Barometer.

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