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Re: The UK thread

Post by Witness » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:47 am

West Midlands Police accused of 'discriminating against white male officers'

The force has ‘paused’ the application process after itself being accused of discrimination

White male officers were blocked from promotion by West Midlands Police in order to give women and ethnic minority candidates a better chance.

But the force has now ‘paused’ the application process after itself being accused of discrimination by the Police Federation union.

The controversial promotion system was drawn up by its newly formed People and Organisation Development (POD) which has an annual budget of more than £17million.

POD was created last year and boasts a staff of more than 400 people, including its £123,000-a-year director, a Head of Diversity and Inclusion earning up to £65,751 per annum, a Positive Action Manager on £46,422 a year, and a Head of Wellbeing on up to £65,000 annually, reports the Birmingham Mail.
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/ ... t-15418097

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Re: The UK thread

Post by asthmatic camel » Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:47 am

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One could have said the same about John Major, who successfully brokered a peace deal in Northern Ireland. Margaret Thatcher refused to speak to anyone who could be branded a terrorist.
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Re: The UK thread

Post by Doctor X » Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:48 am

asthmatic camel wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:47 am
Doctor X wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:39 am
A pacifist does not support murderers.
One could have said the same about John Major, who successfully brokered a peace deal in Northern Ireland.
Major did not support them in their quest to continue their murders. His peace deal rather required them, which included both sides, to cease such activities. Not so Mad Jeremy.

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Re: The UK thread

Post by asthmatic camel » Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:32 pm

That's a matter of opinion. I seriously doubt that Mad Jeremy is encouraging anyone to commit murder.
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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:05 pm

asthmatic camel wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:47 am
Doctor X wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:39 am
A pacifist does not support murderers.

--J.D.
One could have said the same about John Major, who successfully brokered a peace deal in Northern Ireland. Margaret Thatcher refused to speak to anyone who could be branded a terrorist.
Brokering a peace deal is not the same thing as being a pacifist.

Even an outright war criminal (Henry, not anyone British) can do it.
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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:06 pm

asthmatic camel wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:32 pm
That's a matter of opinion. I seriously doubt that Mad Jeremy is encouraging anyone to commit murder.
Not even Hamas?
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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:38 pm

Theresa May says husband — and alcohol — helped her through Brexit
NY Post

Pretty much snagged from a long interview in the Daily Fail (which is linked in the article), but the spin is pure NY Post.

And this pic is not from the Daily Fail piece.

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A quick googling shows that the Daily Fail is not owned by Rupert Murdoch, which may explain the difference in style. :lmao:
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Re: The UK thread

Post by asthmatic camel » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:49 pm

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Jaw, jaw is better than war, war.
Shit happens. The older you get, the more often shit happens. So you have to try not to give a shit even when you do. Because, if you give too many shits, you've created your own shit creek and there's no way out other than swimming through the shit. Oh, and fuck.

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:56 pm

So why is he wearing a terrorist deesh ta'oul?
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Re: The UK thread

Post by asthmatic camel » Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:02 pm

Is he? Abdul, I was at school with a goodly number of Jews, later on in life I've become good friends with a goodly number of Muslims, Sikhs and married a Christian. Make of this what you will but I'm fond of them all.
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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:13 pm

asthmatic camel wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:02 pm
Is he? Abdul, I was at school with a goodly number of Jews, later on in life I've become good friends with a goodly number of Muslims, Sikhs and married a Christian. Make of this what you will but I'm fond of them all.
No problem there, but I bet Jeremy Corbin isn't one of them.

I have done business with and otherwise encountered many Muslims and have yet to meet a scary one in person.

Only one Sikh, but that's due to an unfortunate lack of Sikhs hereabouts.
Incidentally, I don't know anyone who has bad things to say about Sikhs.

But when I see white folks (mostly Jews actually) who wear a deesh ta'oul as an ideological fashion statement, they are always wrong'uns.
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Post by Giz » Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:25 pm

asthmatic camel wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:49 pm
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Jaw, jaw is better than war, war.
His defense is rubbish. He talks to Hamas and says that they are his friends but he won’t talk to likud. Israel is to be shunned and boycotted,while Hamas is to be taken off the list of terrorist organizations.

He’s not pro peace. He is anti west.

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Post by Giz » Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:39 pm

A further thought: Corbyn is closer to being a lord Haw Haw figure than a peacemaker.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Haw-Haw

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Re: The UK thread

Post by Doctor X » Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:42 pm

asthmatic camel wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:32 pm
That's a matter of opinion.
This:

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is not a matter of opinion.

His statements took about four seconds to find.

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:49 pm

In the USA such has been the case with "peace movements".

I speak of political peace movements, not purely religious ones such as the Amish.

However it is generally the case that a lot of decent people are brought along for the ride, or even a decent outfit got ideologically hijacked.

In the 1930s there were the "America Firsters". Initially this was about staying out of war and avoiding foreign entanglement in a general way along the lines of the UK's Oxford Pledge. But as the Nazis got big in Germany and Franklin Roosevelt definitely favored the British, it became about keeping the USA off the backs of Nazi Germany. With the Stalin-Hitler Pact, the Communists all joined in too until Hitler attacked the Soviet Union. Fully suppressed when the USA finally got into the war.

In the 1960s, there were plenty of real pacifists in the anti-war movement from the beginning, but whose flag kept being waved at the rallies to the end?

And another thing:
There had been an indigenous pacifist movement in Japan connected with some form of Buddhism which was brutally suppressed but not completely exterminated by the Japanese Imperial regime before and during WWII. After it was all over, Douglas MacArthur was appointed military governor of Japan and brought them out of hiding to write the new Japanese constitution. There is no reason to suppose they were anything but sincere pacifists, but you still would not call Douglas MacArthur a pacifist.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:57 pm

Don't quite get that last one.
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Post by asthmatic camel » Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:58 pm

One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.

Jaw-jaw is better than war-war, as Churchill may have been misquoted.
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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:00 pm

asthmatic camel wrote:
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One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.
Sometimes.

Other times they are just fighting to exterminate infidels, though I suppose they might call that freedom.
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Post by asthmatic camel » Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:04 pm

Oh, I certainly think they would. I'm no great fan of fundamentalists of any colour but what's the best bet? Talking or warring?
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