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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:16 pm

Yet another of those themed catch all threads.

My opening gambit:

Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation?
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Analysis: What the subject line says. :oldman:
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Post by Rob Lister » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:24 pm

Yea. But they mostly shutup now. So it evens out.

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Post by Nyarlathotep » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:27 pm

Rob Lister wrote:Yea. But they mostly shutup now. So it evens out.

The hell they do.

Nothing ruins a movie like being seated near a gaggle of teenagers. They never shut up.
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Post by Doctor X » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:49 am

With nerve gas they do.



Or so I have read.

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Post by Anaxagoras » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:13 am

Cue Monty Python skit about How Bad We Used To Have It In Our Day.
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Post by Anaxagoras » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:26 am

On a more serious note, this one is in keeping with the topic and might be worth a read:

The Humiliation of Aziz Ansari

It occurs to me that Kids These Days (most of them anyway) have access to hard-core porn at a much earlier age than we did, and it's probably affecting how they see sex, and what kinds of sex they see as normal. In my day, you might find a copy of dad's Playboy (that's how I first saw a naked lady). And my dad never had harder stuff like Hustler (or if he did, he was better at hiding it).

In this story though, the "victim" seems to think that he should have picked up on "nonverbal cues".
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Post by Nyarlathotep » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:57 am

Doctor X wrote:With nerve gas they do.



Or so I have read.

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Post by gnome » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:18 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:On a more serious note, this one is in keeping with the topic and might be worth a read:

The Humiliation of Aziz Ansari

It occurs to me that Kids These Days (most of them anyway) have access to hard-core porn at a much earlier age than we did, and it's probably affecting how they see sex, and what kinds of sex they see as normal. In my day, you might find a copy of dad's Playboy (that's how I first saw a naked lady). And my dad never had harder stuff like Hustler (or if he did, he was better at hiding it).

In this story though, the "victim" seems to think that he should have picked up on "nonverbal cues".
Nonverbal cues like moving away from him, and verbal cues as well.

I recommend you read the account, if you haven't already. It may be that she is not describing it accurately--but if she is, there is plenty to object to in his behavior.

There was some consensual activity, but she did not want to do everything he wanted, and more than once he promised to stop pressuring her in order to get her to stay, only to resume. I don't think he committed any crime upon her, but things can be wrong without being a crime.
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Post by ed » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:55 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:On a more serious note, this one is in keeping with the topic and might be worth a read:

The Humiliation of Aziz Ansari

It occurs to me that Kids These Days (most of them anyway) have access to hard-core porn at a much earlier age than we did, and it's probably affecting how they see sex, and what kinds of sex they see as normal. In my day, you might find a copy of dad's Playboy (that's how I first saw a naked lady). And my dad never had harder stuff like Hustler (or if he did, he was better at hiding it).

In this story though, the "victim" seems to think that he should have picked up on "nonverbal cues".
The thing that no one has picked up on is that he was giving out non-verbal cues too. All the shit shit that she found offensive were cues that she simply ignored. It is not a one way street.
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Post by Anaxagoras » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:35 am

gnome wrote:
Anaxagoras wrote:On a more serious note, this one is in keeping with the topic and might be worth a read:

The Humiliation of Aziz Ansari

It occurs to me that Kids These Days (most of them anyway) have access to hard-core porn at a much earlier age than we did, and it's probably affecting how they see sex, and what kinds of sex they see as normal. In my day, you might find a copy of dad's Playboy (that's how I first saw a naked lady). And my dad never had harder stuff like Hustler (or if he did, he was better at hiding it).

In this story though, the "victim" seems to think that he should have picked up on "nonverbal cues".
Nonverbal cues like moving away from him, and verbal cues as well.

I recommend you read the account, if you haven't already. It may be that she is not describing it accurately--but if she is, there is plenty to object to in his behavior.

There was some consensual activity, but she did not want to do everything he wanted, and more than once he promised to stop pressuring her in order to get her to stay, only to resume. I don't think he committed any crime upon her, but things can be wrong without being a crime.
Yeah, I know. I did read it. I just thought that maybe she should have been a little more proactive by saying something like "hey, could you not put your fingers in my mouth like that? I don't like that. Here's what I do like: . . ." Just a thought.
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Post by gnome » Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:36 am

That would probably be ideal. A lot of women have described becoming verbally nonresponsive in a situation where they have become uncomfortable with what's going on. It isn't easy for me to admit, but I've seen this personally. I once had a lot to learn. Probably still do in theory.
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Post by Anaxagoras » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:16 am

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Post by Doctor X » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:49 am

Johnny-Come-Latelies!

Evidences:



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Post by Don Logan » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:53 am

Wanker.

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Post by Nyarlathotep » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:48 pm

I am as grumpy an old man as anyone, but I question how widespread the "trend" of kids eating Tide pods actually is. I know a handful of dumbasses did it on YouTube. But a handful of YouTube Dumbasses does not a trend make and the media (and the public at large) absolutely love to make up moral panics over crazy things that "kids these days" are doing that they aren't actually doing in any real numbers. CF the panics over "rainbow parties" and variously colored jelly bracelets.
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Post by Doctor X » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:57 pm

Mob of the Mean: Free beanie, cattle-prod and Charley Fan Club!
"Doctor X is just treating you the way he treats everyone--as subhuman crap too dumb to breathe in after you breathe out."--Don
DocX: FTW.--sparks
"Doctor X wins again."--Pyrrho
"Never sorry to make a racist Fucktard cry."--His Humble MagNIfIcence
"It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone."--clarsct
"I'd leave it up to Doctor X who has been a benevolent tyrant so far."--Grammatron
"Indeed you are a river to your people.
Shit. That's going to end up in your sig."--Pyrrho
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"just like Doc X said." --gnome

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Post by Nyarlathotep » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:58 pm

I looked into it when i had a similar conversation on Facebook a few days ago and found that Poison Control centers fielded about 12000 calls last year about people being poisoned by Tide pods but that was actually down about 2000 from the peak of about 14000 in 2015...well before there were any "Tide Pod Challenge" videos on the internet. Most of them are from toddlers getting under mommy and daddy's sink, not idiot teens doing it on purpose.
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Post by Nyarlathotep » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:58 pm

Heh, jinx. I was just looking for and posting that exact chart I found when I had a previous conversation about this
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:01 pm

Do kids these days know anything about hippies? I mean real hippies from the good old days? :oldman:

No?

Time to brush off that story about smoking banana peels. 8)
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Post by gnome » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:06 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:I am as grumpy an old man as anyone, but I question how widespread the "trend" of kids eating Tide pods actually is. I know a handful of dumbasses did it on YouTube. But a handful of YouTube Dumbasses does not a trend make and the media (and the public at large) absolutely love to make up moral panics over crazy things that "kids these days" are doing that they aren't actually doing in any real numbers. CF the panics over "rainbow parties" and variously colored jelly bracelets.
A slight difference is that in those latter cases they couldn't find a single confirmed example.
But it's only a little difference between making something up, and pretending something only a few people did is a huge trend.
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