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Re: Classic boats

Post by sparks » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:31 am

Gotcha.
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Now, that is a thing of beauty.

Such a work of art would be spoiled, however, (IMHO) by the addition of a spray dodger. Yet, when you're out in the middle of it with sun/rain and wind, you occasionally like to get out of the direct brunt of it. But a dodger would spoil those beautiful lines to be sure.
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Re: Classic boats

Post by xouper » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:10 pm

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No worries Xoup. I just had to bail on that because I could foresee the two of us going round and round without ever actually agreeing on anything and I get too much of that at work with 'superiors' who don't understand shit about engineering, whereas you obviously understand sailboats. From you, this is tolerable for a period of time.
It's a sad testament that my behavior needs to be "tolerated". I wish I could do better than that.

Perhaps I could have been more clear that I agree with your observations about keel design. In the video we were discussing, the question I was attempting to answer was "which has a bigger effect, length or keel?" I was lobbying for an old rule of thumb, that in most cases bigger seems to be better, even when other things are not equal (such as keels). I could be wrong. Too often I forget that this is not a debating contest and you are not my enemy. Sorry.

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My personal favorite is the cost of engineering (maintenance and repair) vs profitability. Time and again I find myself pointing out that a. things take time to correct when they've gone wrong and b. to do the job right (and I refuse to bailing-wire and duct tape anything) will cost money. 'This is your life support system' -I tell them. 'You really don't want to skimp on that'.
I hear ya. Once Upon A Time, while developing some factory automation for a client company my boss told me straight out, "We will have more time and money to do it right later." We both knew he was not being totally honest, but there was nothing I could do about it. :Scratch4: :dunno:

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Re: Classic boats

Post by sparks » Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:01 pm

Apology accepted.

IMHO, we get to the truth by debating things. Few of us are doing hard science except Bruce. And debate is the next best method, seems to me. But debate is fraught with this pesky thing called language. If we live long enough, it fucks us all sooner or later.
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Re: Classic boats

Post by Witness » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:51 am

sparks wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:01 pm
But debate is fraught with this pesky thing called language. If we live long enough, it fucks us all sooner or later.
How true! :|

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Re: Classic boats

Post by sparks » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:56 am

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Re: Classic boats

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Re: Classic boats

Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:13 am

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Re: Classic boats

Post by sparks » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:15 am

Beautiful. But is that a yawl or ketch? And what's up with the rigging at the top of the mainmast? Xoup will know. I can't remember where I've seen that or what it's called. Gaff rigged something or other methinks.
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Re: Classic boats

Post by Witness » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:22 am

↑ 2.

Hey, what's happening?!? There were questions and they disappeared. :?

Anyway, my answer was: "ketch".

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Re: Classic boats

Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:38 am

Wikipedia calls it a 4-masted barque. I'm not an expert on the proper nomenclature for sailing ships.
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Re: Classic boats

Post by sparks » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:30 am

My comment was in response to your post regarding the red sails with the white topsail. But I took too long trying to do some Googling and Anax posted before I could. We temporarily got lost there.

Thanks Anax! :)

BTW, the post is just as I left it but not without some edits along the way. Perhaps you (Witness) saw one of them?
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Re: Classic boats

Post by Witness » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:57 am

↑ I must have goofed somehow. :(



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Re: Classic boats

Post by sparks » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:23 am

A well maintained wooden boat is a thing to behold, but jeebus, the time and money it takes!
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Re: Classic boats

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