Weird and unsettling Phishing ploy

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Weird and unsettling Phishing ploy

Post by ed » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:13 pm

So I get a call on my cell yesterday.

From: Ed @ my number!!

The recording said that my cell account was suspended and I needed to "unlock" it.
They proceeded to ask for my SS number, zip and some other stuff. I answered using Robs phony info.
At the end they thanked me and said that my account was restored.

Now, how did they spoof my phone number? Anybody else hear of this scam?
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Re: Weird and unsettling Phishing ploy

Post by ed » Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:01 pm

Poked around a bit. Seems they can fake your phone number thus getting around blocking. That is scary.
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Re: Weird and unsettling Phishing ploy

Post by Anaxagoras » Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:05 pm

Funny, I don't know how they do it, but I had a phishing e-mail at work the other day that appeared to come from my own e-mail address. Saying they had hacked into my computer and had been spying on me and recording everything I did. Nothing specific though, which is a clue that they're full of shit. If they really had been spying on me they could tell me something specific they saw. Demanding bitcoin or some terrible shit would happen. This was all in Japanese by the way. And it made it past my spam filters. Makes you stop and think, how did they send an e-mail from my e-mail account unless they have control of my computer, right?

It wasn't really though, it's just some trick they know to make it appear that way.
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Re: Weird and unsettling Phishing ploy

Post by sparks » Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:41 pm

Trumps fault of course.
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Re: Weird and unsettling Phishing ploy

Post by ed » Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:48 pm

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Re: Weird and unsettling Phishing ploy

Post by Grammatron » Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:36 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:05 pm
Funny, I don't know how they do it, but I had a phishing e-mail at work the other day that appeared to come from my own e-mail address. Saying they had hacked into my computer and had been spying on me and recording everything I did. Nothing specific though, which is a clue that they're full of shit. If they really had been spying on me they could tell me something specific they saw. Demanding bitcoin or some terrible shit would happen. This was all in Japanese by the way. And it made it past my spam filters. Makes you stop and think, how did they send an e-mail from my e-mail account unless they have control of my computer, right?

It wasn't really though, it's just some trick they know to make it appear that way.
If you still have the email, you can check the headers and see where the person sent this from by running a simple trace on their IP. I bet Russia or China.

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Re: Weird and unsettling Phishing ploy

Post by izittrue » Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:12 pm

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Re: Weird and unsettling Phishing ploy

Post by gnome » Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:52 pm

Douglas Adams wrote:
"People who talk to themselves on the phone," said Ford, "never
learn anything to their advantage."

"But ..."

"Look," said Ford. He picked up an imaginary phone and dialed an
imaginary dial.

"Hello?" he said into the imaginary mouthpiece. "Is that Arthur
Dent? Ah, hello, yes. This is Arthur Dent speaking. Don't hang
up."

He looked at the imaginary mouthpiece in disappointment.

"He hung up," he said, shrugged, and put the imaginary phone
neatly back on its imaginary hook.

"This is not my first temporal anomaly," he added.
"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight! Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little bit more about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor. Then, he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat, and then he beat the crap out of every single one. And from that day forward any time a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a zoo! (Beat) Unless it's a farm!"
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Re: Weird and unsettling Phishing ploy

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:03 pm

Caller ID can be spoofed with any number. The latest scam is to grab random numbers in the same exchange as the one being called. No more "who do I know in North Dakota" but some chance of it being someone you know or yourself.

With email spoofing is just a easy, but also easy to trace the real origin. And one's own email will not be on one's personal blacklist.
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Re: Weird and unsettling Phishing ploy

Post by ed » Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:05 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:03 pm
Caller ID can be spoofed with any number. The latest scam is to grab random numbers in the same exchange as the one being called. No more "who do I know in North Dakota" but some chance of it being someone you know or yourself.

With email spoofing is just a easy, but also easy to trace the real origin. And one's own email will not be on one's personal blacklist.
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Re: Weird and unsettling Phishing ploy

Post by gnome » Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:07 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:03 pm
Caller ID can be spoofed with any number. The latest scam is to grab random numbers in the same exchange as the one being called. No more "who do I know in North Dakota" but some chance of it being someone you know or yourself.
Oh, I definitely get that a lot.

What is the enforcement situation on phone calling scams lately? I've been out of touch. If it mostly comes from outside the country not much can be done, I think. But some of it doesn't seem to be.
"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight! Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little bit more about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor. Then, he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat, and then he beat the crap out of every single one. And from that day forward any time a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a zoo! (Beat) Unless it's a farm!"
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Re: Weird and unsettling Phishing ploy

Post by Rob Lister » Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:11 pm

I'm pretty sure the local carrier could do something about it. I'm also pretty sure they intentionally allow it for the right price.

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Re: Weird and unsettling Phishing ploy

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:19 pm

I would agree with Lister, modulo "the right price" is just whatever they normally make on a phone call and they don't want to be bothered with the expense of stopping it.
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