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How much the world can change in one lifetime

Post by Nyarlathotep » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:25 pm

I just found out that a very distant family relation passed on. Not unexpectedly, the man was 104. And no condolences necessary, he was a distant relation I barely knew. But it got me thinking about how much the world has changed since 1914 when he was born.

Two world wars (granted, the first was going on when he was a baby but still)

He went from a world where the radio was a novelty to seeing the rise of TV and thence to the Internet.

He went from a world where infectious diseases killed people on a regular basis even in "developed" countries to one where they became a rarity, then back again because people began to get panicky over vaccination.

In his lifetime, air travel went from "short hops by hobbyists" to "multi-billion dollar industry allowing anyone who can afford it the means to go anywhere in the world within a day"

As old as I am, if I were to die at the same age, I would get to see the 2070s and would at present be less than halfway through my life.

Makes me wonder how different things will be by the time I die if I live to be 104.
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Re: How much the world can change in one lifetime

Post by asthmatic camel » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:01 pm

Assuming that Donald Trump has failed to start WWIII?

SciFi buff as I am, I'll get back to the real world and expect to see huge advances in nanotechnology, AI, biotech and bicycle saddles.

OK, maybe comfortable bicycle saddles are a bit of a stretch but a man can dream.
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Re: How much the world can change in one lifetime

Post by Nyarlathotep » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:11 pm

Isn't inventing a "comfortable bicycle saddle" an impossible project, like a four-sided triangle?
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Re: How much the world can change in one lifetime

Post by asthmatic camel » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:37 pm

Sadly, I believe that to be the case, Nyarlathotep. I own five bicycles and have a cupboard full of cannibalised spares from ones I've worn out, including six saddles. That's eleven saddles in total, and they all hurt my bony arse. :(
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Re: How much the world can change in one lifetime

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:02 pm

asthmatic camel wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:01 pm
Assuming that Donald Trump has failed to start WWIII?

SciFi buff as I am, I'll get back to the real world and expect to see huge advances in nanotechnology, AI, biotech and bicycle saddles.

OK, maybe comfortable bicycle saddles are a bit of a stretch but a man can dream.
WWIII is over. We called it The Cold War.

WWIV otherwise known as The War on Terror ... still going on.

But what if Trump starts WWV :o





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Re: How much the world can change in one lifetime

Post by Grammatron » Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:25 pm

I'll wait till WWVV and pretend it's just internet

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Re: How much the world can change in one lifetime

Post by Nyarlathotep » Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:51 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:02 pm
asthmatic camel wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:01 pm
Assuming that Donald Trump has failed to start WWIII?

SciFi buff as I am, I'll get back to the real world and expect to see huge advances in nanotechnology, AI, biotech and bicycle saddles.

OK, maybe comfortable bicycle saddles are a bit of a stretch but a man can dream.
WWIII is over. We called it The Cold War.

WWIV otherwise known as The War on Terror ... still going on.

But what if Trump starts WWV :o





:P
The War on Terror seems less "WW IV" and more "THe Hundred Years War, Part II"
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Re: How much the world can change in one lifetime

Post by Nyarlathotep » Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:03 pm

Frank James was still alive when he was born
Wyatt Earp was still alive when he was a teenager
I don't know if he did, but he is old enough to have seen the Karloff version of Frankenstein when it first played in theaters.
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Re: How much the world can change in one lifetime

Post by ed » Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:10 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:02 pm
asthmatic camel wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:01 pm
Assuming that Donald Trump has failed to start WWIII?

SciFi buff as I am, I'll get back to the real world and expect to see huge advances in nanotechnology, AI, biotech and bicycle saddles.

OK, maybe comfortable bicycle saddles are a bit of a stretch but a man can dream.
WWIII is over. We called it The Cold War.

WWIV otherwise known as The War on Terror ... still going on.

But what if Trump starts WWV :o





:P
But but


he dosen't


have

Wait for it

the TIME for it.

hahahahahahah

WWV get it?


Oh man. That is gold.
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Re: How much the world can change in one lifetime

Post by ed » Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:11 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:03 pm
Frank James was still alive when he was born
Wyatt Earp was still alive when he was a teenager
I don't know if he did, but he is old enough to have seen the Karloff version of Frankenstein when it first played in theaters.
so was Bat Masterson.

I think Cole Younger was still alive too.
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Re: How much the world can change in one lifetime

Post by Nyarlathotep » Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:15 pm

ed wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:11 pm
Nyarlathotep wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:03 pm
Frank James was still alive when he was born
Wyatt Earp was still alive when he was a teenager
I don't know if he did, but he is old enough to have seen the Karloff version of Frankenstein when it first played in theaters.
so was Bat Masterson.

I think Cole Younger was still alive too.

Yeah. And Pat Garret.

There were still enough veterans of the Civil War alive to have occasional meetings. The last Civil War died when my relative was well into middle age
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Re: How much the world can change in one lifetime

Post by Witness » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:18 am

And yet we are still Cro-Magnon.

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Re: How much the world can change in one lifetime

Post by ed » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:01 am

Nyarlathotep wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:25 pm
I just found out that a very distant family relation passed on. Not unexpectedly, the man was 104. And no condolences necessary, he was a distant relation I barely knew. But it got me thinking about how much the world has changed since 1914 when he was born.

Two world wars (granted, the first was going on when he was a baby but still)

He went from a world where the radio was a novelty to seeing the rise of TV and thence to the Internet.

He went from a world where infectious diseases killed people on a regular basis even in "developed" countries to one where they became a rarity, then back again because people began to get panicky over vaccination.

In his lifetime, air travel went from "short hops by hobbyists" to "multi-billion dollar industry allowing anyone who can afford it the means to go anywhere in the world within a day"

As old as I am, if I were to die at the same age, I would get to see the 2070s and would at present be less than halfway through my life.

Makes me wonder how different things will be by the time I die if I live to be 104.

Funny you bring this up. I have thought of my grandfather, born before the Wright Brothers and died after Niel Armstrong. And the wars.
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Re: How much the world can change in one lifetime

Post by Nyarlathotep » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:16 am

Sometimes I think its funny how our perspective of time can be so skewed. Somethings are closer to us than they seem, other's farther away.

Like how this guy was old enough to have witnessed the Lincoln Assassination, yet survived into the early days of TV.


Or how the last use of the Guillotine in France was around the same time Star Wars was in the theater.

Shit like that.
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Re: How much the world can change in one lifetime

Post by Giz » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:23 am

Nyarlathotep wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:16 am
Sometimes I think its funny how our perspective of time can be so skewed. Somethings are closer to us than they seem, other's farther away.

Like how this guy was old enough to have witnessed the Lincoln Assassination, yet survived into the early days of TV.


Or how the last use of the Guillotine in France was around the same time Star Wars was in the theater.

Shit like that.
What did he think of the play?

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Re: How much the world can change in one lifetime

Post by Nyarlathotep » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:35 am

Probably pissed off he never got to see the end
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Re: How much the world can change in one lifetime

Post by Grammatron » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:52 pm

There's another dimension to this for me.

I lived in USSR, a nation that no longer exists. When I lived there my family did not have a private phone. Vast majority of people did not have a personal vehicle.

When I came to USA my family had a private phone, then a car. Then internet became a thing, then pagers, then mobile phones. Now you can catch a ride anywhere in someone else's car with a push of a button on your mobile phone. All of that in a span of 15 years.

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Re: How much the world can change in one lifetime

Post by Nyarlathotep » Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:36 pm

Interesting point.

The internet changed a lot of things. I play an RPG over the internet on Sundays. Our group is three Americans, a Brit, A Croatian and a Pole. The Croatian, though, is currently living in Belize.

When it was a kid, that would have been impossible/unthinkable on several levels. Now, it’s trivial and not the least bit odd
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