Building up resistance to a poison by taking small doses.

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Building up resistance to a poison by taking small doses.

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:56 am

Building up resistance to a poison by taking small doses. It's a staple of folklore. It's obviously not a general principle.

The question is whether there is any poison for which this would work?

Specifically a poison that might be available, say around 1500 CE or earlier in Europe.

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Postby MRC_Hans » Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:50 am

Strychnine is classical. Presumably, but hardly experimentally verified :o , it should be possible to "learn" to safely (but not comfortably) witstand a dose that is lethal to a nontrained individual.

Alcohol is another. Heavy drinkers can typically take surprising amounts, yet not appear intoxicated.

Other toxins work the opposite way, accumulating the effect of doses over a long period of time.

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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:25 pm

MRC_Hans wrote: Other toxins work the opposite way, accumulating the effect of doses over a long period of time. Hans


Like mercury poisoning.

Any idea when strychnine was discovered? Would it have been available in Renaissance Italy, for instance?

What I'm getting at is whether there is relationship between this old idea and the ideology of homeopathy.
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Postby MRC_Hans » Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:52 pm

I don't know the history of this, but I have seen no reference to it in homeopathy. The idea of homeopathy is quite different. For a quick primer of homeopathy, look here: http://www.hans-egebo.dk/skeptic

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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:55 pm

MRC_Hans wrote:I don't know the history of this, but I have seen no reference to it in homeopathy. The idea of homeopathy is quite different. For a quick primer of homeopathy, look here: http://www.hans-egebo/skeptic

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Postby Hexxenhammer » Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:14 pm

Iocane powder. Odorless. Tasteless. And among the more deadly poisons known to man.
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Postby Grammatron » Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:23 pm

Hexxenhammer wrote:Iocane powder. Odorless. Tasteless. And among the more deadly poisons known to man.


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Postby Hexxenhammer » Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:28 pm

Grammatron wrote:
Hexxenhammer wrote:Iocane powder. Odorless. Tasteless. And among the more deadly poisons known to man.


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What? Iocane isn't real? :wink:
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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:57 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
MRC_Hans wrote:I don't know the history of this, but I have seen no reference to it in homeopathy. The idea of homeopathy is quite different. For a quick primer of homeopathy, look here: http://www.hans-egebo/skeptic

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Found and duly bookmarked to read at leisure.

Is homeopathy big in Denmark, or is this just part of an international debunking effort? 8)
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Postby MRC_Hans » Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:02 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:
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Found and duly bookmarked to read at leisure.

Is homeopathy big in Denmark, or is this just part of an international debunking effort? 8)
I made a typo in the URL :oops: , later corrected. No, this is a part of the international effort. In fact, homeopathy is nearly non-existent in Denmark. I am not sure why.

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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:22 am

MRC_Hans wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:
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Found and duly bookmarked to read at leisure.

Is homeopathy big in Denmark, or is this just part of an international debunking effort? 8)
I made a typo in the URL :oops: , later corrected. No, this is a part of the international effort. In fact, homeopathy is nearly non-existent in Denmark. I am not sure why.

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It's big in the UK because the royals are into it. It's big in the USA because everything is big over here, both good and bad. :D

I grew up short walking distance from these guys: http://www.kiehls.com/

A fun thing we did when I was a kid was go to Kiehl's Pharmacy and look at the specimens in their show window. OK, perhaps we were too easily amused.

It is said that not only homeopaths and naturopaths, but wealthy practitioners of folk magic are customers of Kiehl's. I have no real evidence, just what people around there say.

Kiehl's also has a real pharmacy. Which they must, by law, to call themselves a pharmacy. A pharmacy may also sell non-drugs, such as shampoo, toilet paper, candy bars, magazines etc in the usual case ... and any legal product, including woo-woo quack remedies.
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