Wheat called modern poison

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Wheat called modern poison

Postby Pyrrho » Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:23 pm

At least by a certain cardiologist. Article is a year old, though.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505269_162- ... ctor-says/

"This thing has many new features nobody told you about, such as there's a new protein in this thing called gliadin. It's not gluten. I'm not addressing people with gluten sensitivities and celiac disease. I'm talking about everybody else because everybody else is susceptible to the gliadin protein that is an opiate.


Beyond me; can't comment.

"If three people lost eight pounds, big deal," he said. "But we're seeing hundreds of thousands of people losing 30, 80, 150 pounds. Diabetics become no longer diabetic; people with arthritis having dramatic relief. People losing leg swelling, acid reflux, irritable bowel syndrome, depression, and on and on every day."


Hmm. I am suspicious of such miraculous claims.

He does have a "Wheat Belly Blog" which I don't care to link.
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Re: Wheat called modern poison

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:30 pm

Gluten (the natural protein in wheat) is supposed to be bad for you.

OK. Some people are seriously allergic to it, so labelling certain products "gluten free" makes sense.

Just about anything with protein in it is evil.

Meat of course. Eggs. Cheese. Think of the poor little cute baby animals.

Beans make you fart.

Gluten.
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Postby asthmatic camel » Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:41 pm

Take this.

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Re: Wheat called modern poison

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:52 pm

asthmatic camel wrote:Take this.

Delightiful

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If you're a Hippy.


That ground elder quiche has eggs in it.

What are you, some kind of chicken abortionist? :)
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Re: Wheat called modern poison

Postby grayman » Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:46 pm

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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:00 pm

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Re: Wheat called modern poison

Postby asthmatic camel » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:15 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
asthmatic camel wrote:Take this.

Delightiful

Scrummy.

If you're a Hippy.


That ground elder quiche has eggs in it.

What are you, some kind of chicken abortionist? :)


Ground elder is supposed to have been imported by the Romans as a cheap food source; it's not native to Britain. I've spent years digging it out of gardens as it's an invasive weed. It is edible but it fucking stinks.

What have the Romans ever done for us?
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Re: Wheat called modern poison

Postby Bruce » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:18 pm

Pyrrho wrote:
"This thing has many new features nobody told you about, such as there's a new protein in this thing called gliadin. It's not gluten. I'm not addressing people with gluten sensitivities and celiac disease. I'm talking about everybody else because everybody else is susceptible to the gliadin protein that is an opiate.



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Gliadin may exhibit similar addictive properties to opiates, but it is not an opiate.

Opiates are small molecules that have a specific molecular backbone. That's what makes them an opiate.

Gluten and gliadin are protiens, which are huge molecules.

There's a big difference between saying beer is as addictive as crack and saying beer is crack. :roll:
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Re: Wheat called modern poison

Postby asthmatic camel » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:57 pm

Lister's addicted to crack. Just a different kind of protein.
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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:33 pm

asthmatic camel wrote:What have the Romans ever done for us?


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Postby Pyrrho » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:49 am

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Re: Wheat called modern poison

Postby Rob Lister » Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:13 am

asthmatic camel wrote:Lister's addicted to crack. Just a different kind of protein.


How the fuck did I come up in this conversation!? And besides, 'addicted' is a strong word, donchathink?

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Postby asthmatic camel » Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:07 pm

Just being my usual, silly self.

I meant the kind of crack that can be cured by wearing a thong. ;)
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Postby asthmatic camel » Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:13 pm

Highly refined wheat's bad news if you're a diabetic, the wholegrain stuff not so much.
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Re: Wheat called modern poison

Postby Cloverlief » Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:04 pm

Gliadin does have opiate properties. Of course you have to have .5 mg of gliadin (and that isn't all the gliadin used, btw, just the portion that became active) to make 1 nM of opiate that will actually bind to receptors.

Now I admit that I was a horrible chemist and remember little more than the composition of H2O (hell I have the periodic table on my shoes for easy reference), so I may be misunderstanding something here.

BTW, gliadin is part of the gluten.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6099562

Heavily refined wheat, aka, white wheat, is hell on everybody and should be used in moderation. It is like fruit juice - everything healthy about it has been removed and all that is left is the sugars.
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Postby asthmatic camel » Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:20 pm

That's a bit of a fad diet, Abdul, although it's not too far away from the one I follow.
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Re: Wheat called modern poison

Postby DrMatt » Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:00 pm

A truly paleolithic diet should include a lot of insects, no?
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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:33 pm

DrMatt wrote:A truly paleolithic diet should include a lot of insects, no?


Guess what.

Check out the FDA regs on allowable insect parts. :P
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Re: Wheat called modern poison

Postby Rob Lister » Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:42 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
DrMatt wrote:A truly paleolithic diet should include a lot of insects, no?


Guess what.

Check out the FDA regs on allowable insect parts. :P


shut the fuck up about my hot dogs, non-kosher meats, and other staples of my diet. if they got bugs in 'em, i don't wanna hear about it.

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