Hope to die by 75

Ever had it before? Well you got it again.
User avatar
Rob Lister
Posts: 19051
Joined: Sun Jul 18, 2004 7:15 pm
Title: Incipient toppler
Location: Hiding under ed's bed
Has thanked: 491 times
Been thanked: 489 times

Hope to die by 75

Postby Rob Lister » Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:54 am

Bioethicist At National Institutes of Health: "Why I Hope To Die At 75"

Ezekiel J. Emanuel, director of the Clinical Bioethics Department at the US National Institutes of Health, writes at The Atlantic that there is a simple truth that many of us seem to resist: living too long renders many of us, if not disabled, then faltering and declining, a state that may not be worse than death but is nonetheless deprived. "It robs us of our creativity and ability to contribute to work, society, the world. It transforms how people experience us, relate to us, and, most important, remember us. We are no longer remembered as vibrant and engaged but as feeble, ineffectual, even pathetic." Emanuel says that he is isn't asking for more time than is likely nor foreshortening his life but is talking about the kind and amount of health care he will consent to after 75. "Once I have lived to 75, my approach to my health care will completely change. I won't actively end my life. But I won't try to prolong it, either."

...

I think this manic desperation to endlessly extend life is misguided and potentially destructive. For many reasons, 75 is a pretty good age to aim to stop."
http://science.slashdot.org/story/14/09 ... -die-at-75

A google search reveals that Ezekiel was born in 1957, making him, coincidentally, 57 years old. Let's touch base with him in 15 years and see if his opinion has matured a bit.

If life has any purpose, it is to live it.

User avatar
ed
Posts: 30998
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:52 pm
Title: Rhino of the Florida swamps
Has thanked: 361 times
Been thanked: 599 times

Re: Hope to die by 75

Postby ed » Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:52 am

a Senator who told Macro during Caligula's coma he would give his life if Caligula lived is forced by Caligula to commit suicide


We could work with this ...
- new minimalist ethos -

User avatar
Rob Lister
Posts: 19051
Joined: Sun Jul 18, 2004 7:15 pm
Title: Incipient toppler
Location: Hiding under ed's bed
Has thanked: 491 times
Been thanked: 489 times

Re: Hope to die by 75

Postby Rob Lister » Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:56 am

Maybe this guy Ezekiel is floating a trial balloon. He works for the NIH, after all. So he's possibly putting out feelers for how the public will accept cutting off medical care at 75. That would certainly do wonders for Obama Care. Wouldn't hurt Social Security either. :)

Has kind of a Logan's Run feel to it.

User avatar
gnome
Posts: 20820
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:40 am
Location: New Port Richey, FL
Has thanked: 278 times
Been thanked: 273 times

Re: Hope to die by 75

Postby gnome » Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:47 pm

It would have that "benefit" for just about any health care system if we could dump one of its neediest sectors.
"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight! Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little bit more about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor. Then, he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat, and then he beat the crap out of every single one. And from that day forward any time a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a zoo! (Beat) Unless it's a farm!"
--Soldier, TF2

User avatar
ed
Posts: 30998
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:52 pm
Title: Rhino of the Florida swamps
Has thanked: 361 times
Been thanked: 599 times

Re: Hope to die by 75

Postby ed » Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:49 pm

Image

:D
- new minimalist ethos -

User avatar
Abdul Alhazred
Posts: 66413
Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:33 pm
Title: Yes, that one.
Location: Chicago
Has thanked: 2044 times
Been thanked: 870 times

Re: Hope to die by 75

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:02 pm

He's a bioethicist.

That means an apologist for state ownership of your body.

A priest of death worship.

And the brother of the mayor of Chicago.

Death at 75, except for the politically connected.
Image "If I turn in a sicko, will I get a reward?"

"Yes! A BIG REWARD!" ====> Click here to turn in a sicko
Any man writes a mission statement spends a night in the box.
-- our mission statement plappendale

User avatar
whitefork
Posts: 3957
Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:23 pm
Title: Nearly Normal
Location: I live in Trafalgar Square with four lions to guard me.
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 43 times

Re: Hope to die by 75

Postby whitefork » Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:01 pm

there's a lot of money in prolonging life beyond its expiration date.
we're all going to die. If you knew you were going to end up like Terri Schiavo or Ronald Reagan would you eliminate your own map before then?

except Ray Kurzweil. He can afford his immortality dream.
If it's good enough for Nelson, it's quite good enough for me.

User avatar
Doctor X
Posts: 64622
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:09 pm
Title: Collective Messiah
Location: Your Mom
Has thanked: 2801 times
Been thanked: 1764 times

Re: Hope to die by 75

Postby Doctor X » Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:50 pm

whitefork wrote:there's a lot of money in prolonging life beyond its expiration date.
we're all going to give our stereos to Doctor X--the Merciful and Compassionate--Nay, should we not write "Humble, Yet MagNIfIcent?". If you knew you were going to end up like Terri Schiavo or Ronald Reagan would you eliminate your own map before then?

except Ray Kurzweil. He can afford his immortality dream.


Image

--J.D.
Mob of the Mean: Free beanie, cattle-prod and Charley Fan Club!
"Doctor X is just treating you the way he treats everyone--as subhuman crap too dumb to breathe in after you breathe out."--Don
DocX: FTW.--sparks
"Doctor X wins again."--Pyrrho
"It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone."--clarsct
"I'd leave it up to Doctor X who has been a benevolent tyrant so far."--Grammatron
"Indeed you are a river to your people.

Shit. That's going to end up in your sig."--Pyrrho

ImageWS CHAMPIONS X3!!! NBA CHAMPIONS!! ImageStanley Cup!Image SB CHAMPIONS X5!!!!! Image

User avatar
Abdul Alhazred
Posts: 66413
Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:33 pm
Title: Yes, that one.
Location: Chicago
Has thanked: 2044 times
Been thanked: 870 times

Re: Hope to die by 75

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:07 am

Oooh! Oooh!

Another interpretation ...

Another Subtext to Ezekiel Emanuel's "Why I Hope to Die at 75:" Hillary's Too Old
Unz Review (right wing vanity site)

:lmao:
Image "If I turn in a sicko, will I get a reward?"

"Yes! A BIG REWARD!" ====> Click here to turn in a sicko
Any man writes a mission statement spends a night in the box.
-- our mission statement plappendale


Return to “Medicine, Health, & Nutrition”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: CCBot [Bot] and 0 guests