8 Women Dead in India After Sterilization Surgery

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8 Women Dead in India After Sterilization Surgery

Post by Anaxagoras » Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:50 am

What the hell happened here?

http://time.com/3577640/india-steriliza ... -bilaspur/
Sixty-eight others have been hospitalized and five are in critical condition

Eight women died on Monday in the Indian state of Chattisgarh following government-sponsored sterilization surgery, according to a state medical official.

Sixty-eight other women have been hospitalized and at least five are in critical condition, Bloomberg reports.

Sonmani Borah, commissioner of the Bilaspur district where the drive took place, told Agence France-Presse that symptoms such as low pulse rates and vomiting started appearing in the women on Monday.

The routine sterilization drive was part of a campaign by the Indian government aimed at controlling population growth, and was conducted by doctors at a private hospital who reportedly performed 83 operations within six hours on Saturday.

“The deaths were due to infection causing septic shock,” said Amar Singh Thakur, the district’s chief health officer. “We are investigating, but it is too early to say that it was due to sterilization.”

Local news outlet NDTV reported that the Indian government has set up a three-member panel to investigate the deaths and also announced compensation of about $3,000 to the victims’ families.
$3,000? Really? I mean, I understand that it's a poor country and all, but that seems a bit insulting.

Not a good advertisement for these sorts of efforts.
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Re: 8 Women Dead in India After Sterilization Surgery

Post by Doctor X » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:39 pm

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Re: 8 Women Dead in India After Sterilization Surgery

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:34 pm

How Voice of America spins it.

8 Women Dead at Indian State-Run Mass Sterilization Camp

Synopsis: Basic facts the same.

Sounds rather more sinister than what the Time article implies.
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Re: 8 Women Dead in India After Sterilization Surgery

Post by Anaxagoras » Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:42 pm

Doctor X wrote:Why one should wash one's hands after using the restroom.

--J.D.
I thought they figured that part out like in the 19th century. Seems someone forgot it.

From Abdul's link:
Local governments in India often offer incentives to couples volunteering for sterilization to try to control the country's billion-plus population.

In this particular case, they were paid $10 each to undergo sterilization surgery in central India, according to The Wall Street Journal.

Authorities in eastern India came under fire last year after a news channel unearthed footage showing scores of women dumped unconscious in a field following a mass sterilization.
Just bizarre.
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Re: 8 Women Dead in India After Sterilization Surgery

Post by Rob Lister » Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:56 pm

Assembly line operation. Something went askew in the process. Need a better QA process. Easy fix. A team of eight Russians doctors could do over 1000 Lasik eye surgeries a day with less than 2% blinds. I"m certain the Indians can do as well with something so simple, so trivial, as sterilizations.

Probably just a smidgen of dirt on a camera lens. Easy fix. Let's just move on.

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Re: 8 Women Dead in India After Sterilization Surgery

Post by Anaxagoras » Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:40 am

The number of dead is up to 13 now.

Doctor Arrested in India Sterilization Deaths
Dr. R.K. Gupta, who had been hiding since Saturday's operations, was arrested at a relatives' home in Bilaspur city late Wednesday, said Dr. S.K. Mandal, the chief medical officer of Chhattisgarh state.

Gupta had performed over 80 sterilization surgeries in six hours — a clear breach of government protocol, which prohibits surgeons from performing more than 30 sterilizations in a day, Mandal said.

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Mandal said at least 13 women died and dozens more were hospitalized, including at least 16 fighting for their lives.

He said that investigators were also trying to determine whether the women, all of them poor villagers, had been given tainted medicines during their time at the "health camp" where they underwent the operations.
It doesn't seem that he lacked for experience in this procedure:
In January, Gupta was feted by the state government for performing 50,000 laparoscopic tubectomies.
So the tainted medicine thing seems more likely. If he was such a bad doctor, I think that would have been discovered before he performed 50,000 of these procedures.
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Re: 8 Women Dead in India After Sterilization Surgery

Post by Doctor X » Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:48 am

He got complacent.

Do the maths: "80 in 6 hours" means > 13/ hour or one procedure every 4.5 minutes.

Wrap your mind around that.

How long does it take to prepare a patient, which includes anesthesia and proper preparation of the surgical site and, you know, sterilization of the instruments which take slightly longer than 4 minutes?

This is greed and a "I Don't Give a Fuck" attitude. So he got sloppy. "Infections are RARE" in the 21st century, but operate like they did in the 1800s and you will be amazed!

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Re: 8 Women Dead in India After Sterilization Surgery

Post by Anaxagoras » Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:03 am

OK, I'm convinced.

I mean, I assumed of course that he had helpers to do the stuff like the sterilization part.

I wonder if he just used the same equipment for each patient without sterilizing it in between patients?
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Re: 8 Women Dead in India After Sterilization Surgery

Post by Doctor X » Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:11 am

You would have to have a number of sets of equipment to serially sterilize so that you can do multiple procedures. Even the more "outpatient" laproscopic procedures--such as laproscopic carpal tunnel surgery--have maybe two. The shit is expensive of course.

It takes longer than 4 minutes to properly prep a patient in a non-emergency situations.

So if the numbers are correct, he was cutting corners. Slashing corners.

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