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Next thing, white people will be getting black blood

Postby whitefork » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:19 pm

File under "it's about damn time"
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/24/healt ... .html?_r=0
doesn't go far enough but it's a start.
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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:33 pm

I'm gay, yet do not care either way.

The "black blood" thing meant black people might be denied treatment if "black blood" was not available.

But the Red Cross has never had any problem giving gay people "straight blood" And no it's not a "cure". :)
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Postby whitefork » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:35 pm

the idea that Dick Cheney was saying that made my head asplode.
I've given a lot of blood (platelets mostly) for years and it saddens me that so few who can donate, do.
Limiting the pool of potential donors for so long was dumb.
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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:46 pm

whitefork wrote:the idea that Dick Cheney was saying that made my head asplode.


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Re: Next thing, white people will be getting black blood

Postby Rob Lister » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:53 pm

They don't pay enough for straight-white-hetero-big-dick blood. So I don't give.


Really, it's the principle.

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Postby gnome » Thu Dec 25, 2014 12:49 pm

I thought it was foolish in the first place to base it on sexual identity instead of behavior. It should have been obvious from the start that some people reject their own identity, or otherwise behave differently than how they identify.

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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:00 pm

And if they change the standard to "had any lately", people can still lie.

For that matter, extreme promiscuity is a risk factor for straights, too. Does the Red Cross ask?

For that matter, it's not as if the blood can't be tested for HIV or any other VD. Do they test it?
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Postby gnome » Thu Dec 25, 2014 4:11 pm

I don't know the answer to the other two questions, but I know that they found they got more honest responses when asking about behavior vs. asking about sexual identity.
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Postby Anaxagoras » Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:05 am

Rob Lister wrote:They don't pay enough for straight-white-hetero-big-dick blood. So I don't give.


Really, it's the principle.

If they paid people for their blood though, it would increase the risk that some people would lie (if that matters).

Abdul Alhazred wrote:And if they change the standard to "had any lately", people can still lie.

For that matter, extreme promiscuity is a risk factor for straights, too. Does the Red Cross ask?

For that matter, it's not as if the blood can't be tested for HIV or any other VD. Do they test it?

They do test every sample I believe. I don't know how foolproof the test is, but I haven't heard much about people getting infected by a blood transfusion lately.
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Postby corplinx » Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:58 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:
Rob Lister wrote:They don't pay enough for straight-white-hetero-big-dick blood. So I don't give.


Really, it's the principle.

If they paid people for their blood though, it would increase the risk that some people would lie (if that matters).

Abdul Alhazred wrote:And if they change the standard to "had any lately", people can still lie.

For that matter, extreme promiscuity is a risk factor for straights, too. Does the Red Cross ask?

For that matter, it's not as if the blood can't be tested for HIV or any other VD. Do they test it?

They do test every sample I believe. I don't know how foolproof the test is, but I haven't heard much about people getting infected by a blood transfusion lately.


You get the check after the test clears. Problem solved.

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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:01 pm

corplinx wrote:You get the check after the test clears. Problem solved.


Problem solved if they do it that way. 8)
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Postby scarlett_35 » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:09 pm

They HIV test all blood and give you the results, that said, sometimes the results are wrong. The red cross anyway, I don't know about places that pay for blood.

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Postby whitefork » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:53 pm

I'd like to see blood donations treated as charitable contributions for tax purposes.
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Postby Doctor X » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:54 pm

A long time ago I researched the risks of getting HIV--now that a reliable test existed--from a blood transfusion. At the time, it was about equivalent to being hit by an airplane.

I am unaware of a "in the last ten years" incidence in the United States.

*Google-Fu*

The risk for acquiring HIV infection through blood transfusion today is estimated conservatively to be one in 1.5 million, based on 2007--2008 data.

CDC


from the editorial note:

This report describes the first U.S. case of transfusion-transmitted HIV infection reported* to CDC since 2002 (3) (Figure 2). The sequence of events in this case is consistent with transmission by transfusion of HIV-contaminated plasma collected from a donor during the eclipse period of acute infection (i.e., the interval between infection and the development of detectable concentrations of HIV RNA in plasma) to a recipient treated with medication that suppressed HIV replication, reduced the CD4 lymphocyte count, and blunted the humoral response to HIV infection.


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Postby Tiosylanyl » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:34 pm

Doctor X wrote:
The risk for acquiring HIV infection through blood transfusion today is estimated conservatively to be one in 1.5 million, based on 2007--2008 data.

CDC


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Postby jacks » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:37 pm

will it make my penis larger?

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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:51 pm

jacks wrote:will it make my penis larger?


Gay blood? Probably not.

It won't improve your fashion sense either, but you might start talking like Truman Capote. :P
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Postby Doctor X » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:30 am

jacks wrote:will it make my penis larger?


Cannot see how it could possibly get smaller. . . .

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Postby Grammatron » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:55 am

An interesting and related point I read about when this story popped up last month. HIV infection through a blood transfusion is how Isaac Asimov died.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Asim ... _and_death
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Postby Anaxagoras » Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:13 pm

So TIL about Charles Drew, an African-American physician who did some very important work in developing the first blood banks. In fact, they even call him the father of the blood bank. Nonetheless, in the early days they decided not to accept blood donations from blacks, and later to segregate black blood from white blood. I'm not sure when this practice finally ended but it was in place at least until the end of world war 2.
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