Cure for cancer. Polio

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Cure for cancer. Polio

Postby robinson » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:23 pm

No kidding. Duke Uni was on 60 minutes last night. They have been injecting live polio virus into the brain to cure cancer.
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Re: Cure for cancer. Polio

Postby sparks » Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:12 pm

Saw a similar report on HBOs 'Vice' in which researchers have figured out how to 'gut' certain disease viruses and use them to infect (kill) certain cancer cells. And it's not a treatment or therapy but a bloody cure. (At least as far as the initial trials show.....) Could be available to all as early as next year.

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Re: Cure for cancer. Polio

Postby corplinx » Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:25 pm

Which type of brain cancer?

Basically, every cancer is a snowflake and you have to make a therapy/treatment/cure that targets that particular cell. There is no "cure for cancer". (but dont tell every major news outlet who knows this and knows better, but uses "cure for cancer" as ratings-bait)

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Re: Cure for cancer. Polio

Postby sparks » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:58 pm

Glioblastoma I believe.
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Re: Cure for cancer. Polio

Postby Pyrrho » Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:08 pm

Here's What '60 Minutes' Didn't Tell You About The 'Miracle' Glioblastoma Treatment

11 of 22 patients died. 3 are "cancer free."

Phase I studies at this point. Long way to go.
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Re: Cure for cancer. Polio

Postby gnome » Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:12 pm

See, that's why we have cancer, because Western Medicine cured polio, and now we've lost our natural immunity to it!
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Re: Cure for cancer. Polio

Postby Doctor X » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:30 am

I was unaware that the polio virus invades the astrocyte support cells which lead to astrocytoma which invariably progresses to GBM [Grade IV Astrocytoma--Ed.] but apparently there is evidence it does. It just attacks neurons far more more quickly and pervasively. This, from Pyrrho's linkypoo:

A later Phase III trial produced a “durable response” but missed the endpoint for overall survival.


is most revealing.

However, the prognosis for GBM has basically not changed in about 100 years, so all sorts of "great and desperate" cures get tried for it.

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Re: Cure for cancer. Polio

Postby Pyrrho » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:35 am

Missing a primary endpoint in a phase III trial is not good news for the research.
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Postby Doctor X » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:31 am

Standard of therapy that prolongs survival . . . by about a year is:

    1. Debulking surgery.
    2. Radiation.






    3. Here is some napalm . . . let's try that!
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Re: Cure for cancer. Polio

Postby sparks » Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:38 am

Pyrrho wrote:Here's What '60 Minutes' Didn't Tell You About The 'Miracle' Glioblastoma Treatment

11 of 22 patients died. 3 are "cancer free."

Phase I studies at this point. Long way to go.


Either the "Vice" reporting was on a different set of trials or they bloody well dressed it up as well because the feeling one had after watching it was that something really great and wonderful is about to happen in this field of health care.
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Re: Cure for cancer. Polio

Postby corplinx » Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:49 am

Read "The Emperor of All Maladies" and cancer stories in the news will forever make you shake your head.

We have the knowledge about carcinogenesis written in layman's terms in a narrative that reads like fiction.

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Re: Cure for cancer. Polio

Postby sparks » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:20 pm

The book title you just mentioned rings a bell.............I think it was The NPR perhaps...................??? In any case, I shall heed your recommendation.
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Re: Cure for cancer. Polio

Postby sparks » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:40 pm

Here (regarding the Vice story):

http://www.hbo.com/#/vice/episodes/03/0 ... IAVj4XOA==

Reported 90% success rate using re-engineered HIV to attack blood cancers. Great news if true. In addition, the Vice story reports the common cold virus being used against Gliobastoma rather than the Polio virus.

Seems clear we are talking about many many different trials here.
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