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Head transplant? No way.

Postby Anaxagoras » Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:33 am

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/292306.php

30-year-old Russian man volunteers for world's first human head transplant

Dr. Sergio Canavero, of the Turin Advanced Neuromodulation Group (TANG) in Italy, first spoke of his plans to carry out the first human head transplantation in July 2013 - a project named HEAVEN-GEMINI.

At the American Academy of Neurological and Orthopedic Surgeons' 39th Annual Conference in Annapolis, MD, in June, Dr. Canavero will present updated plans for the project, addressing some of the previously identified challenges that come with it.

Though researchers have seriously questioned the feasibility of Dr. Canavero's plans, it seems the first human head transplantation is a step closer to becoming a reality; Valery Spiridonov, a 30-year-old computer scientist from Vladimir, Russia, is the first person to volunteer for the procedure.

Spiridonov has Werdnig-Hoffman disease - a rare genetic muscle wasting condition, also referred to as type 1 spinal muscular atrophy (SMA). The condition is caused by the loss of motor neurons in the spinal cord and the brain region connected to the spinal cord. Individuals with the disease are unable to walk and are often unable to sit unaided.

Spiridonov was diagnosed with Werdnig-Hoffman disease at the age of 1 and told MailOnline that he volunteered for HEAVEN-GEMINI because he wants the chance of a new body before he dies.

'"I can hardly control my body now," he said. "I need help every day, every minute. I am now 30 years old, although people rarely live to more than 20 with this disease."

Donor body will be attached to recipient's head through spinal cord fusion

Dr. Canavero told CNN he has received an array of emails and letters from people asking to be considered for the procedure, many of which have been from transgender individuals seeking a new body. However, the surgeon says the first people to undergo the procedure will be those with muscle wasting conditions like Spiridonov.


If this were possible, wouldn't it be possible to cure paralysis? Second, part of the problem is in the brain itself.
I guess since this disease is a death sentence anyway, ok, but it won't work.

Unsurprisingly, however, researchers worldwide are highly skeptical of the proposal. Talking to CNN, Arthur Caplan, PhD, director of medical ethics and NYU Langone Medical Center in New York, NY, even called Dr. Canavero "nuts."

Caplan said the procedure needs to be conducted many more times on animals before it is applied to humans, adding that if the technique is feasible then Dr. Canavero should be trying to help paralyzed patients before attempting whole body transplants.

And talking to New Scientist earlier this year, Harry Goldsmith, a clinical professor of neurosurgery at the University of California-Davis, said the project is so "overwhelming" that it is the chances of it going ahead are unlikely.

"I don't believe it will ever work," he added, "there are too many problems with the procedure. Trying to keep someone healthy in a coma for 4 weeks - it's not going to happen."
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Re: Head transplant? No way.

Postby Doctor X » Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:44 am

Anaxagoras wrote:Though researchers have seriously questioned the feasibility of Dr. Canavero's plans, . . .


All of them.

The condition is caused by the loss of motor neurons in the spinal cord and the brain region connected to the spinal cord. Individuals with the disease are unable to walk and are often unable to sit unaided.


Though the are not complete quad which is exactly what a decapitated transplanted body would be. See Christopher Reeve.

he wants the chance of a new body before he dies.


The desperate will try anything, sadly.

'"I can hardly control my body now," he said. "I need help every day, every minute. I am now 30 years old, although people rarely live to more than 20 with this disease."


And will have none afterwards. Congratulations . . . I guess. Your "new" body will suffer all of the sequelæ of a high cervical quad.

If this were possible, wouldn't it be possible to cure paralysis?


Exactly.

Second, part of the problem is in the brain itself.


Exactly, but you might as well wipe out the motor areas at this point. Read the The Diving Bell and the Butterfly--or see the excellent movie--to experience the miracle that is a Locked-in Syndrome. There are fates worse than death.

Hell, why not apply it to Prof. Stephen Hawking? Is he not more "deserving?"

As for the rest, this is what boys graduate to after frying ants on sidewalks. Nuremberg would execute them for it.

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Re: Head transplant? No way.

Postby asthmatic camel » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:09 am

I hope it works, I'm fucking sick of my head.

Which SC head would I like?

Snarlett's. That'd seriously fuck up Mrs. Camel's mind.
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Postby Doctor X » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:39 am

You want Snarlett to give you head?

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Postby Anaxagoras » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:35 am

Hawking is probably smart enough to know it wouldn't work though.


As far as the transgender people who want to volunteer for this, there are better surgical options for them.
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Postby Doctor X » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:44 am

I fear that some transgendered people have not sufficiently thought through the concept. I wish to exercise caution. There have been some who have undergone gender reassignment--I believe a particularly famous case--who have come to regret it. Unfortunately, that is touted by the "IZ SIN!!!!1!!!" types to smear all transgender people just as the fact that a gay marriage ends in a divorce is touted: "SEEE?!!!!!" as if that is significant. We will just ignore the level of straight divorces and pastors of all religions fucking their parishioners.

The very unhappy will clutch to the silly. Just as the terminally ill will arrange to have their heads frozen on the minican chance that, some day, they will not only figure out how to unfreeze a dead head and bring it back to viability, they will figure out how to repair spinal cord injury and solve the immune response to allow a successful transplant. How that will solve the Alzheimer's you are developing Mr. Williams is anyone's guess. Since the alternative is "DEAD girl!" and it only costs money you will never live to spend . . . "why not?"

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Postby asthmatic camel » Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:44 am

Doc, I used to run a pub that was largely frequented by the gay and lesbian community. One customer, let us call him Frank, went through the gender reassignment thing because he wanted to be a lesbian.

I hadn't seen him/her for about 20 years until Mrs. Camel and I went out for a night on the town.

Frank didn't look too good. Mrs. Camel said "That woman looks like a bricklayer in drag."

A fair appraisal.
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Postby Anaxagoras » Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:35 am

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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:44 pm

Sex change by head transplant.

I vaguely recall a shitty movie around 1970 on that theme.

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Re: Head transplant? No way.

Postby sparks » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:56 pm

Doctor X wrote:You want Snarlett to give you head?

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Is this a trick question?

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Re: Head transplant? No way.

Postby Doctor X » Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:35 am

I prefer:

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