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The Official Zika Thread

Post by Rob Lister » Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:21 pm

Science 17 June 2016
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Experts fear Zika's effects may be even worse than thought

Looks like that narrow window during pregnancy was mistaken.

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Re: The Official Zika Thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:48 pm

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Re: The Official Zika Thread

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Re: The Official Zika Thread

Post by Ben Trovado » Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:12 pm

Just a suggestion.

Maybe the CDC should put aside the gun statistics argument for a few minutes and concentrate on this and $%#!@ yellow fever?

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Re: The Official Zika Thread

Post by Rob Lister » Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:22 pm

Other infected infants may have only mild brain damage that will not be apparent until learning disabilities or other problems show up years later. Researchers are setting up long-term studies to follow pregnant women and their babies to better understand the risk the virus poses.
So that narrow window of vulnerability is not really so. Yea, the earlier in the pregnancy the worse, but pretty much anytime before birth is very bad. To early to know but this could be very bad indeed, absent a vaccine.

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:28 pm

Rob Lister wrote:Experts fear Zika's effects may be even worse than thought

There's yur link, asshole.

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Post by Witness » Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:29 pm

The Food and Drug Administration on Monday for the first time approved a clinical trial for an experimental vaccine for Zika virus, an early but significant step in the effort to combat a disease that has quickly emerged as a global health threat.

The first people could be injected within a few weeks, said Inovio President and CEO Dr. Joseph Kim. Inovio, of Plymouth Meeting, Pa., and GeneOne Life Science, of Seoul, South Korea, will make the vaccine.
https://www.statnews.com/2016/06/20/zik ... ne-inovio/

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Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:52 am

First baby with Zika-related birth defect is born in Florida
Health officials confirmed Florida’s first baby born with a Zika-related birth defect on Tuesday as the number of people infected with the virus this year climbed to 227 cases statewide.

The baby is at least the fifth child born in the United States with microcephaly, which causes abnormally small heads and incomplete brain development, as a result of the Zika virus.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/health- ... rylink=cpy
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Post by Doctor X » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:58 am

I would not worry. It is not as if thousands of sexually active people from all over the world are going there.

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Post by Rob Lister » Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:50 pm

Twist in Zika Outbreak: New York Case Shows Women Can Spread It to Men
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Re: The Official Zika Thread

Post by sparks » Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:32 pm

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Post by Rob Lister » Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:15 am

CDC sez that once you get it, you're immune. It will be over in ~two weeks and that the symptoms are so mild you might never know you got it.

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Post by Anaxagoras » Fri Aug 05, 2016 3:02 am

This is hopeful. A vaccine (three vaccines actually) may be just around the corner:

Study: 3 Types Of Vaccine Protect Against Zika Virus In Monkeys
Just last month, a research team led by Dr. Dan Barouch of Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center reported promising results from two sorts of Zika vaccines in mice. But mice are just mice — now they're up to monkeys, and from two vaccines to three, they report in the journal Science.

"Our findings raise substantial optimism that the development of a safe and effective vaccine against Zika virus for humans might be possible," Barouch says. "Therefore, clinical trials should proceed as quickly as possible."

In fact, one of the vaccine types the team tested in monkeys is slated to begin human clinical trials this fall at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research and other sites, Barouch says.

A news article in Science explains the three promising vaccines: "One is a traditional vaccine that uses a whole killed Zika virus. The second contains DNA from Zika woven into a small, harmless circle of DNA called a plasmid; once in cells, this DNA produces Zika proteins that spark an immune response against them. The third strategy stitched Zika genes into adenoviruses, which act as Trojan horses and infect cells to trigger immune responses."

A Pennsylvania company has already begun clinical trials of one vaccine, and the National Institutes of Health are launching them as well.


Too bad that Vaccine Science Doesn't Exist though. :wink:
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Post by Doctor X » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:57 am

Anaxagoras wrote:Too bad that Vaccine Science Doesn't Exist though. :wink:
I see you are not into serious debate! Why no citation of Natural Healing blogs?!

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Post by ed » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:53 am

Anaxagoras wrote:This is hopeful. A vaccine (three vaccines actually) may be just around the corner:

Study: 3 Types Of Vaccine Protect Against Zika Virus In Monkeys
Just last month, a research team led by Dr. Dan Barouch of Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center reported promising results from two sorts of Zika vaccines in mice. But mice are just mice — now they're up to monkeys, and from two vaccines to three, they report in the journal Science.

"Our findings raise substantial optimism that the development of a safe and effective vaccine against Zika virus for humans might be possible," Barouch says. "Therefore, clinical trials should proceed as quickly as possible."

In fact, one of the vaccine types the team tested in monkeys is slated to begin human clinical trials this fall at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research and other sites, Barouch says.

A news article in Science explains the three promising vaccines: "One is a traditional vaccine that uses a whole killed Zika virus. The second contains DNA from Zika woven into a small, harmless circle of DNA called a plasmid; once in cells, this DNA produces Zika proteins that spark an immune response against them. The third strategy stitched Zika genes into adenoviruses, which act as Trojan horses and infect cells to trigger immune responses."

A Pennsylvania company has already begun clinical trials of one vaccine, and the National Institutes of Health are launching them as well.


Too bad that Vaccine Science Doesn't Exist though. :wink:
What is the process by which the disease causes birth defects? How "bad" a case of the disease does one need to have before the defect occurs? Might the low level of the disease caused by a vaccination trigger defects?

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Post by Anaxagoras » Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:08 pm

That's a good question, I don't think we really know the answer.

Even with drugs like thalidomide I'm not sure they ever pinned down the precise mechanism by which the drug caused the birth defect. They just noticed a correlation between taking the drug and a higher incidence of birth defects. In the long run it probably won't matter. You vaccinate kids at a young age before they are sexually active and hopefully it protects them for the rest of their lives.

In the short term though, I don't know if you vaccinate a pregnant woman or not. Which would be riskier? If there is a high possibility of catching the full disease the risk of vaccinating may be lower.
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Post by ed » Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:15 pm

So you don't vaccinate people likely to have kids anytime soon.
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Post by Anaxagoras » Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:20 pm

It depends. Are the risks of catching the virus in the wild higher than the risk if you vaccinate?
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Post by ed » Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:07 pm

I'm in floruda. I've had the disease for decades.
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Post by sparks » Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:52 pm

ed--you are the disease. You know this. Stop waffling! :)
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