Hospitals and "alternative" treatments

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Hospitals and "alternative" treatments

Postby Pyrrho » Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:13 pm

https://www.statnews.com/2017/03/07/alt ... s-promote/

Some hospitals have built luxurious, spa-like wellness centers to draw patients for spiritual healing, homeopathy, and more. And they’re promoting such treatments for a wide array of conditions, including depression, heart disease, cancer, and chronic pain. Duke even markets a pediatric program that suggests on its website that alternative medicine, including “detoxification programs” and “botanical medicines,” can help children with conditions ranging from autism to asthma to ADHD.

“We’ve become witch doctors,” said Dr. Steven Novella, a professor of neurology at the Yale School of Medicine and a longtime critic of alternative medicine.
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Re: Hospitals and "alternative" treatments

Postby Rob Lister » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:14 pm

I"m torn on that. On the one hand, they're really saying, "You're gonna die so lets make you comfortable."
On the other, they're charging $1297/hr for it.

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Re: Hospitals and "alternative" treatments

Postby Anaxagoras » Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:01 am

“Here at UF, we do not have alternative medicine. We do not have complementary medicine. We have integrative medicine,” said Dr. Irene Estores, medical director of the integrative medicine program at the University of Florida Shands Hospital in Gainesville, Fla.


Because the terms "alternative medicine" and "complementary medicine" have been discredited?

Sounds like just a new word for the same old thing to me.

Here's what they say it means:
https://integrativemedicine.arizona.edu ... ition.html
https://www.dukeintegrativemedicine.org ... -medicine/

The second one uses the word "allopathic" to refer to conventional medicine, which is a clue about what this really is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allopathic_medicine

Allopathic medicine is an expression commonly used in India and other countries like Ghana and Korea to refer to modern systems of medicine.[1][citation needed]

The term is also used by homeopaths and proponents of other forms of alternative medicine to refer to mainstream medical use of pharmacologically active agents or physical interventions to treat or suppress symptoms or pathophysiologic processes of diseases or conditions.[2] The expression was coined in 1810 by the creator of homeopathy, Samuel Hahnemann (1755–1843).[3] In such circles, the expression "allopathic medicine" is still used to refer to "the broad category of medical practice that is sometimes called Western medicine, biomedicine, evidence-based medicine, or modern medicine" (see the article on scientific medicine).[4]
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Re: Hospitals and "alternative" treatments

Postby xouper » Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:13 am

Anaxagoras wrote:
“Here at UF, we do not have alternative medicine. We do not have complementary medicine. We have integrative medicine,” said Dr. Irene Estores, medical director of the integrative medicine program at the University of Florida Shands Hospital in Gainesville, Fla.


Because the terms "alternative medicine" and "complementary medicine" have been discredited?

Sounds like just a new word for the same old thing to me.

Here's what they say it means:
https://integrativemedicine.arizona.edu ... ition.html
https://www.dukeintegrativemedicine.org ... -medicine/

The second one uses the word "allopathic" to refer to conventional medicine, which is a clue about what this really is.


Bingo.

To me, there is only medicine that works or stuff that doesn't. If it has been demonstrated to work, then there is no reason to call it "alternative" medicine or any of the other euphemisms.

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Re: Hospitals and "alternative" treatments

Postby Doctor X » Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:22 am

They are happy to take your/insurance company/government's money any way they can.

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