39 Categories of Illness

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39 Categories of Illness

Postby grayman » Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:46 am

On another site that has nothing to do with religion or skepticism, one of the posters wrote the following on a thread that had nothing to do with what he wrote:

God doesn't cause cancer - that is a tool of satan. I have actually met people who have been cured of cancer by prayer to God - that is his role in sickness.

A small but astounding piece of trivia

Every disease - including those newly and recently discovered fit into 39 categories.

Jesus took 39 lashes - was meant to be 40 - but Pilate called a halt at 39.

Now, the Bible says "By His stripes we are healed"

39 categories of illness - 39 stripes.

No coincidence.


I don't recall ever hearing of this claim before. Is this new or have I just missed it?
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Postby Major Malfunction » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:02 am

I think I know which illness that poster's got...
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Postby clarsct » Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:39 am

Hey, I lumped all women into four categories!
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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:48 am

Is there an actual list of categories for us to laugh at?

It's somehow a better story if (as I suspect) there isn't.
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Postby grayman » Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:16 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Is there an actual list of categories for us to laugh at?

It's somehow a better story if (as I suspect) there isn't.


I've asked for a reference. No response yet...
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Postby Tiosylanyl » Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:28 pm

grayman wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:Is there an actual list of categories for us to laugh at?

It's somehow a better story if (as I suspect) there isn't.


I've asked for a reference. No response yet...


A quick google search turned up this:

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/146885.html

I can find only one specific modern reference to 39 categories of
disease, in a sermon by Dr. Dale A. Robbins where he ascribes this to
the Journal of the AMA:

"According to the scripture, these stripes upon Christ were in behalf
of our healing. Coincidentally, several years ago the American Medical
Association Journal published an interesting article which traced all
the world's diseases to thirty nine root sources. A coincident? Not
hardly. Jesus bore a stripe for every disease known to mankind."
http://www.victorious.org/healing.htm
"Healing is one of God's Benefits"

The American Medical Association has a searchable archive of their
past journal articles, but I was not able to find any article
purporting to establish 39 root sources of disease, or even discussing
a list of 39 disease categories. However, it's possible that the such
an article predates the AMA's electronic archive.


In any case, modern disease classification systems are not based on 39 categories. Diseases are so varied, and our knowledge of some of them is developing so rapidly, that such a simplistic categorization would be unlikely to be useful. In practise, there can be as many categories as are required to achieve the desired level of granularity. There are broad groupings of diseases, but no hard-and-fast divisions. An example of a modern system is "ICD", the "International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems" which is currently in its 10th revision: http://www.who.int/whosis/icd10/ World Health Organization - ICD-10 The latest revision is not yet online, but you can browse the 9th revision. It's free for the first 23 lookups in any 24 hour period: http://www.e-mds.com/services/icd9/index.html ICD classifies diseases with numbers from 001 to 999, like the Dewey Decimal System used by many libraries to classify books. Like the Dewey System, it uses digits after the decimal point for extra detail, so is no limit to the number of available disease classifications. There are 17 broad categories within which all ICD diseases are classified. Within those, there are varying levels of subcategory (hundreds of subcategories in all). Here are the top-level categories: Infectious and parasitic diseases Neoplasms Endocrine, nutritional and metabolic diseases and immunity disorders Diseases of the blood and blood-forming organs Mental disorders Diseases of the nervous system and sense organs Diseases of the circulatory system Diseases of the respiratory system Diseases of the digestive system Diseases of the genitourinary system Complications of pregnancy, childbirth and the puerperium Diseases of the skin and subcutaneous tissue Diseases of the musculoskeletal system and connective tissue Congenital abnormalities Certain conditions originating in the perinatal period Symptoms, signs, and ill-defined conditions Injury and poisoning

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Postby izittrue » Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:30 pm

There are 17 broad categories within which all ICD diseases are classified.


Obviously 17 is related to non believers....
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Postby grayman » Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:34 pm

Thanks for the info Mordread.
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Postby Tiosylanyl » Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:36 pm

No problem. I didn't find much else. There was one other item I found at yahoo answers that references the link that I already posted. I tried googling it a couple different ways too. Not even Snopes has anything on it.

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Postby Geni » Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:17 pm

Consistant with satan as depicted in the Book of Job.

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Postby That masked man » Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:20 am

I would think that with so many diseases and ways of classifying them, that a sufficiently creative person could find a way to group them into whatever number of categories they wanted to. So of course there are 39 categories of disease. One could just as easily divide them in 42 categories, thus proving the divine inspiration of the great prophet Douglas Adams.
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Postby Nyarlathotep » Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:42 am

Exactly. Divide thigns arbitrarily enough and one can find any convenient number of categories of anything.

If I wanted to, I could figure out the 666 categories of Dachshunds, thus proving weiner dogs to be the tools of Satan.
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Postby grayman » Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:29 am

After posting Mordread's information, I receive a reply.

Here it is, unedited, in its entirety:

and you probably believe the US Govt isn't corropt
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Postby Doctor X » Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:56 am

grayman wrote:After posting Mordread's information, I receive a reply.

Here it is, unedited, in its entirety:

and you probably believe the US Govt isn't corropt


To which, I hope you replied with the following:

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Sorry to make you cry.

Relax."

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Postby Tiosylanyl » Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:07 am

grayman wrote:After posting Mordread's information, I receive a reply.

Here it is, unedited, in its entirety:

and you probably believe the US Govt isn't corropt


:lol:

Anyhoo, here's more ammo for you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ICD-9_codes


* List of ICD-9 codes 001-139: Infectious and parasitic diseases
* List of ICD-9 codes 140-239: Neoplasms
* List of ICD-9 codes 240-279: Endocrine, nutritional and metabolic diseases, and immunity disorders
* List of ICD-9 codes 280-289: Diseases of the blood and blood-forming organs
* List of ICD-9 codes 290-319: Mental disorders
* List of ICD-9 codes 320-359: Diseases of the nervous system
* List of ICD-9 codes 360-389: Diseases of the sense organs
* List of ICD-9 codes 390-459: Diseases of the circulatory system
* List of ICD-9 codes 460-519: Diseases of the respiratory system
* List of ICD-9 codes 520-579: Diseases of the digestive system
* List of ICD-9 codes 580-629: Diseases of the genitourinary system
* List of ICD-9 codes 630-676: Complications of pregnancy, childbirth, and the puerperium
* List of ICD-9 codes 680-709: Diseases of the skin and subcutaneous tissue
* List of ICD-9 codes 710-739: Diseases of the musculoskeletal system and connective tissue
* List of ICD-9 codes 740-759: Congenital anomalies
* List of ICD-9 codes 760-779: Certain conditions originating in the perinatal period
* List of ICD-9 codes 780-799: Symptoms, signs, and ill-defined conditions
* List of ICD-9 codes 800-999: Injury and poisoning
* List of ICD-9 codes E and V codes: External causes of injury and supplemental classification


I don't know why I didn't think of this earlier, seeing as how I'm in the healthcare industry. These codes are published by the World Health Organization and are used by medical/pharmacy providers to indicate a patient's diagnosis for medical billing. The list above contains 19 main categories, and each contains several sub-categories.

For the most part, Sub-categories are indicated by a main code, while specific diseases or conditions are indicated by decimals.

For example, the sub-category for coagulation defects is indicated by 286, however, specific diagnoses are as follows:

286.0 - Congenital Factor VIII Disorder (Hemophilia A)
286.1 - Congenital Factor IX Disorder (Hemophilia B)
286.2 - Congenital Factor XI Disorder (Hemophilia C)
286.3 - Congenital deficiency of other clotting factors
286.4 - Von willebrand's disease

and so on...

Ingenix, and other companies, publish reference books annually to update providers on any changes to codes.

You could also possibly reference HCPCS/CPT codes as well, however, these are used to describe procedures or services provided by a medical practitioner, hospital, or pharmacy.

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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:41 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:If I wanted to, I could figure out the 666 categories of Dachshunds, thus proving weiner dogs to be the tools of Satan.


Like you need numerology to figure out something obvious like that.

I mean like, Nazi dogs ... duh!
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Re: 39 Categories of Illness

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:45 pm

Has anyone discovered a new category in the past 8 years?

Just checking. :)
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Re: 39 Categories of Illness

Postby shemp » Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:31 pm

Yes: choking to death on a bag of dicks.
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Re: 39 Categories of Illness

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:38 am

shemp wrote:Yes: choking to death on a bag of dicks.


Pfft!

That was number 11. :mrgreen:
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Re: 39 Categories of Illness

Postby Witness » Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:59 am

40th: exhuming old BS. :wink:


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