Why I think religion is the bunk

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Re: Why I think religion is the bunk

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:44 am

DrMatt wrote:At least it's intellectual dishonesty with a long history (and a couple celebrities like Spinoza and Sagan). IIRC the Stoics believed in gods that were far away, kept the stars and planets in order, and had no interaction with humans. That's part of what distinguished them from the Skeptics and Epicureans.


Neither the Stoics nor the Epicureans nor Spinoza claimed to have a religion.
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Re: Why I think religion is the bunk

Postby Anaxagoras » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:25 am

ed wrote:Something else occurred to me.

No one believes in magic. I mean really BELIEVES that natural laws can be suspended by a magicion.

Why? What is the difference between magic and religion?

Apologetics.

Magic is religion without the excuses.


Many people fell for Uri Geller's cheap parlor tricks. Or people who claim to be pyschics/mediums.

It all depends on how the magician presents him/herself. You put a book in the Fiction section and of course nobody thinks it's real. Put a book full of falsehoods in Non-Fiction or claim it is Divine Revelation, and some fools will fall for it.
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Re: Why I think religion is the bunk

Postby Pyrrho » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:46 pm

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Re: Why I think religion is the bunk

Postby ed » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:09 pm

Bump. I've been giving this more thought.
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Re: Why I think religion is the bunk

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:25 pm

ed wrote:Bump. I've been giving this more thought.


Uh oh.

You're not about to be born again are you? :o
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Re: Why I think religion is the bunk

Postby shemp » Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:46 am

Ed can't be born again. He's a bot.
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Re: Why I think religion is the bunk

Postby Witness » Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:46 am

ed giving it more thought:
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