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I’m a Presbyterian Minister Who Doesn’t Believe in God

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:35 pm

Not me, silly. This guy.

I’m a Presbyterian Minister Who Doesn’t Believe in God
Patheos

There's nothing especially outré about his point of view ...

... I believe that:

    Religion is a human construct
    The symbols of faith are products of human cultural evolution
    Jesus may have been an historical figure, but most of what we know about him is in the form of legend
    God is a symbol of myth-making and not credible as a supernatural being or force
    The Bible is a human product as opposed to special revelation from a divine being
    Human consciousness is the result of natural selection, so there’s no afterlife
In short, I regard the symbols of Christianity from a non-supernatural point of view.

...


But what gets me is why this man would be a Presbyterian Minister.

It doesn't pay much. It gets no respect. It is a position from which one has little or no effect on society.

Maybe there is free pussy? :propeller:
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Re: I’m a Presbyterian Minister Who Doesn’t Believe in God

Postby ed » Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:46 pm

Alter Boys?
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Re: I’m a Presbyterian Minister Who Doesn’t Believe in God

Postby corplinx » Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:59 pm

He was predestined for it obviously.

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Re: I’m a Presbyterian Minister Who Doesn’t Believe in God

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:02 pm

ed wrote:Alter Boys?


You're confusing the Presbyterians with that other church. :wink:
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Re: I’m a Presbyterian Minister Who Doesn’t Believe in God

Postby Rob Lister » Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:19 pm

I'm not so sure about it not paying much.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/parse/ ... -paid.html

According to that site, they make more than any other denomination.

I know that the Methodist minister of the church my sister attends made over $100K back in the early 90's.

I know the Catholic Priest of the church my wife [doesn't much] goes to makes minimum wage.

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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:22 pm

So maybe it is the money.

I'm assuming that is a big wealthy suburban congregation?
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Re: I’m a Presbyterian Minister Who Doesn’t Believe in God

Postby asthmatic camel » Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:22 am

Pays pretty well over here. Funeral and wedding fees are a good number. An acquaintance gets £160 a pop for funerals and can manage a few a day.
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Re: I’m a Presbyterian Minister Who Doesn’t Believe in God

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:08 am

asthmatic camel wrote:Pays pretty well over here. Funeral and wedding fees are a good number. An acquaintance gets £160 a pop for funerals and can manage a few a day.


One expects C of E minsters not to believe in God, Old Boy. 8)
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Re: I’m a Presbyterian Minister Who Doesn’t Believe in God

Postby Doctor X » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:24 am

Sir Humphrey Appleby: The Queen is inseparable from the Church of England.

Jim Hacker: And what about God?

Sir Humphrey Appleby: I think he is what is called an optional extra.

James Hacker: Humphrey, what's a Modernist in the Church of England?

Sir Humphrey Appleby: Ah, well, the word "Modernist" is code for non-believer.

James Hacker: You mean an atheist?

Sir Humphrey Appleby: No, Prime Minister. An atheist clergyman couldn't continue to draw his stipend. So, when they stop believing in God, they call themselves "Modernists".

James Hacker: How could the Church of England suggest an atheist as Bishop of Bury St Edmunds?

Sir Humphrey Appleby: Well, very easily. The Church of England is primarily a social organization, not a religious one.

James Hacker: Is it?

Sir Humphrey Appleby: Oh yes. It's part of the rich social fabric of this country. So bishops need to be the sorts of chaps who speak properly and know which knife and fork to use. The sort of people one can look up to.

James Hacker: So, the ideal candidate from the Church of England's point of view would be a cross between a socialite, and a socialist.

Sir Humphrey Appleby: Precisely.

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Re: I’m a Presbyterian Minister Who Doesn’t Believe in God

Postby Doctor X » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:31 am

Evidences:

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