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Religious freedom thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:59 pm

For anything anywhere that relates to religious freedom.
Including freedom of no religion when that comes up.

I'll kick things off with a politician who doesn't seem to understand the concept at all, aside from the specific political issues at hand.

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Democrat Tammy Baldwin: The First Amendment doesn’t extend ‘far beyond’ ‘institutions of faith’
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Video at link (which I haven't watched yet), but here is a direct quote:
Tammy Baldwin { Senator (D-WI) } : “Certainly the First Amendment says that in institutions of faith that there is absolute power to, you know, to observe deeply held religious beliefs. But I don’t think it extends far beyond that. We’ve seen the set of arguments play out in issues such as access to contraception. Should it be the individual pharmacist whose religious beliefs guides whether a prescription is filled, or in this context, they’re talking about expanding this far beyond our churches and synagogues to businesses and individuals across this country. I think there are clear limits that have been set in other contexts and we ought to abide by those in this new context across America.”


Oh please Senator, may I be for marriage equality without being a totalitarian enemy of human existence? :o
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Re: Religious freedom thread

Post by Witness » Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:59 am

Shortly after the Charlie Hebdo massacre:
Francis said that both religious freedom and the freedom of expression are “fundamental human rights.” But ultimately, he believes, religious rights are paramount. “It’s normal. You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others,” the pope said during a 45-minute press conference.

That's a view rooted in Catholic tradition, but the notion of limits on free speech is a fraught topic after the Charlie Hebdo attacks in Paris last week.

“The pope's expression is in no way intended to be interpreted as a justification for the violence and terror that took place in Paris last week,” said Rev. Thomas Rosica in a statement from the Vatican press office.
http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-01-15/p ... ree-speech
So you better get your priorities right, or else…

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Re: Religious freedom thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:58 am

Witness:
One doesn't expect the Pope to follow the US constitution.
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Re: Religious freedom thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:40 pm

The Left is All About Religion Influencing Public Policy—When It's For Bigger Government
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LIBBERUL and Rethuglican agree.

Big Daddy (or Momma, YMMV) represents the ultimate concern of a faction of the ruling class.

The rest is details.
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Re: Religious freedom thread

Post by Witness » Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:30 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Witness:
One doesn't expect the Pope to follow the US constitution.
Methinks I posted strictly according to your specs:
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But it's of course your thread, and keeping it parochial certainly befits the subject.
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Re: Religious freedom thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:33 pm

Sorry, I thought you were answering my post. :oops:

Carry on. :coolspecs:
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Re: Religious freedom thread

Post by Witness » Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:50 pm

↑ OK.
UN Watch wrote:Farce: Saudi Arabia Hosting UN Human Rights Conference on Religious Freedom

GENEVA, June 4, 2015 – Despite its reputation as one the world’s worst violators of religious freedom, Saudi Arabia is now hosting in Jeddah a UN human rights conference on combating intolerance and discrimination based on religion or belief, attended by the president of the UN Human Rights Council and other top international representatives.
http://blog.unwatch.org/index.php/2015/ ... s-freedom/

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Re: Religious freedom thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:52 pm

Slight error:

The correct spelling is "unhuman rights" not "UN human rights". :mrgreen:
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Re: Religious freedom thread

Post by hammegk » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:22 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Slight error:

The correct spelling is "unhuman rights" not "UN human rights". :mrgreen:
Goats have no rights, only the sand-monkeys.

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Re: Religious freedom thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:27 pm

Now who said anything about goats?

Fill in the blank:

To a __________ everything looks like a goat. :BigGrin3:
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Re: Religious freedom thread

Post by Witness » Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:17 am

Seems somehow appropriate to Hammy's contribution:
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Friendly Atheist wrote:The Army Keeps Denying Heathens Official Recognition for No Good Reason
July 10, 2015 by Sarah Rasher

The United States Army has infringed on the rights of minority religious groups before, but this time, they risk being smitten by the hammer of Thor.

For the past six years, Heathens (their word) in the Army have been fighting for official recognition of their religion, which modernizes traditional Norse, Germanic, and Anglo-Saxon beliefs in gods like Odin and Freyja and an afterlife in the warrior’s paradise Valhalla. While the Air Force began recognizing Heathens last year, the other branches of the U.S. Military have not followed suit. In January, the Army briefly approved Heathen and Asatru (the Norse word for the religion), but reversed its position a few days later.
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http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... tel-bibles

Run of the mill, New Age, Science-Fiction or neo-Traditional (e. g. reinvented Druidism) religions, it's all exactly the same crap, nevertheless.

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Re: Religious freedom thread

Post by Doctor X » Sat Jul 11, 2015 3:23 am

It is crap but if the Army and others recognize--and in the case of the Airforce specifically for years promote--crap then they must recognize and respect all crap.

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Re: Religious freedom thread

Post by hammegk » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:28 am

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Re: Religious freedom thread

Post by Doctor X » Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:26 am

Even Tinkerbell's cravenly ignorant racist crap.

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Re: Religious freedom thread

Post by Witness » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:15 pm

Doctor X wrote:It is crap but if the Army and others recognize--and in the case of the Airforce specifically for years promote--crap then they must recognize and respect all crap.

--J.D.
I agree, of course; yet it saddens me.
Daily Kos wrote:Tue Jun 16, 2015 at 07:25 PM PDT
USAF Defecates On Its Regulations Yet Again: Flag Ceremony Unlawfully Promotes Ole’ Time Religion
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/1 ... e-Religion

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