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John Oliver vs. televangelists and tax-exemptions

Postby the_ignored » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:04 pm

Oh shit yeah. This guy takes them the hell on! Check out what he does after the 15 minute mark. That's when he tells us of this:

His own legal church.

Even the rapture ready crowd doesn't like those kinds of people. Too bad the fucking wankers removed the link to the actual site because of "bad language". What the hell did Oliver say that pissed those people off?
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Re: John Oliver vs. televangelists and tax-exemptions

Postby sparks » Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:29 am

Saw that one too. Laughed my ass off.
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Re: John Oliver vs. televangelists and tax-exemptions

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:32 pm

If you're going to have tax exemptions for churches at all:

1) You put up with sleazeballs like Kenneth Copeland taking advantage.

2) Or (in my opinion much worse) the government must have official rules about what is a "legitimate" church. That is much more obviously unconstitutional than the exemption.

I'd much rather tax churches at the same rate as any other corporation.

But failing that, better the status quo than the government getting into officially determining religious legitimacy.
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Re: John Oliver vs. televangelists and tax-exemptions

Postby Rob Lister » Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:46 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:If you're going to have tax exemptions for churches at all:

1) You put up with sleazeballs like Kenneth Copeland taking advantage.


I would restate that
If you're going to have a non-profit exemption at all

1) You put up with churches getting them too.

If I had to guess, I'd say there is less abuse on the part of churches than other non-profits.

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Re: John Oliver vs. televangelists and tax-exemptions

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:53 pm

Legally speaking, the exemption for "non-profits" are separate from those for churches.

For example "non-profits" have to file tax returns and are also subject to all sorts of regulations that cannot constitutionally apply to churches.
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Postby DrMatt » Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:09 pm

I just like 1-800-this-is-legal
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Re: John Oliver vs. televangelists and tax-exemptions

Postby sparks » Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:41 pm

As Hitchens noted: "If you put 'Reverend' in front of your name, you can get away with anything". So, no tax exemptions for churches. No tax breaks for the contributing flock-o-fools.

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Postby Doctor X » Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:11 am

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Postby sparks » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:18 pm

They do but some people report that they cause autism.
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Re: John Oliver vs. televangelists and tax-exemptions

Postby ed » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:22 pm

sparks wrote:As Hitchens noted: "If you put 'Reverend' in front of your name, you can get away with anything". So, no tax exemptions for churches. No tax breaks for the contributing flock-o-fools.

Drive those psychopath hucksters back to snake oil and comet pills where they belong.


Why would loss of a tax exemption put them out of business? I would suspect that they'd use it as a sign of the end times and try to get their flock to double down.
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Re: John Oliver vs. televangelists and tax-exemptions

Postby sparks » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:27 pm

It might. But we must try. Hope springs eternal, you know.

Main thing is they'd finally be paying their fair share. Revision of the tax code for large corporations/the outrageously wealthy is in order too: Record profits/income, no taxes paid=bullshit.
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Postby DrMatt » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:53 pm

Televangelists cause autism?








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Re: John Oliver vs. televangelists and tax-exemptions

Postby Witness » Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:46 am

Now, these stained glass dresses are expensive, t_i!

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Re: John Oliver vs. televangelists and tax-exemptions

Postby the_ignored » Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:24 am

So long as that's the only kind of stain involved...
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Postby Doctor X » Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:33 am

That all depends on your definition of "is."

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Re: John Oliver vs. televangelists and tax-exemptions

Postby the_ignored » Sat Aug 22, 2015 2:31 am

Good news. Doubt it'll work out though.
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>and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
>still disappear if I was you.

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Postby sparks » Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:11 am

Agreed.
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Re: John Oliver vs. televangelists and tax-exemptions

Postby Doctor X » Sat Aug 22, 2015 5:12 am

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Re: John Oliver vs. televangelists and tax-exemptions

Postby sparks » Sat Aug 22, 2015 6:10 pm

Thanks! FSM knows, I need all the help I can get. (In spite of the fact that experiment after experiment proves the impotence of prayer....just sayin'.)
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