May a Muslim be president of the United States?

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May a Muslim be president of the United States?

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:18 pm

The US Constitution clearly permits it.

I put the question here and not in 'politics' because I am approaching the question from the point of view of whether Islam itself permits such a thing.

I could not find a specific fatwa on the question, but this one suggests to me that the answer is no.

Concept of democracy in Islam
http://islamqa.info/en/98134
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Democracy is a system that is contrary to Islam, because it gives the power of legislation to the people or to those who represent them (such as members of Parliament). Based on that, in democracy legislative authority is given to someone other than Allah, may He be exalted; rather it is given to the people and their deputies, and what matters is not their consensus but the majority. Thus what the majority agree upon becomes laws that are binding on the nation, even if it is contrary to common sense, religious teaching or reason. In these systems legislation has been promulgated allowing abortion, same-sex marriage and usurious interest (riba); the rulings of sharee‘ah have been abolished; and fornication/adultery and the drinking of alcohol are permitted. In fact this system is at war with Islam and its followers.

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Re: May a Muslim be president of the United States?

Post by ed » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:37 pm

It is sorta like the idiots that think the bible is literal and inerrant and the word of god. If they lived their lives by it's tenants, they'd be in the slammer. Ergo they are faux believers, or believers of convenience.
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Re: May a Muslim be president of the United States?

Post by no one in particular » Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:16 pm

Someone should show this to Trump. Muslims can't be president after all!
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Re: May a Muslim be president of the United States?

Post by Witness » Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:59 pm

Aha! So ousting their various dictatorships and trying to allow them some form of democracyTM would actually infringe their freethinking religious rights.

Good to know.

And sheds an interesting light on attempts, past & present, in Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Libya …

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Re: May a Muslim be president of the United States?

Post by hammegk » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:32 pm

Do we think the Moslem will swear in on a bible???

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Re: May a Muslim be president of the United States?

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Re: May a Muslim be president of the United States?

Post by hammegk » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:40 pm

Can you tap-dance?

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Re: May a Muslim be president of the United States?

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Re: May a Muslim be president of the United States?

Post by hammegk » Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:27 pm

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Re: May a Muslim be president of the United States?

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:04 pm

hammegk wrote:Do we think the Moslem will swear in on a bible???
People often do things that are against their religion.

So that, for example, a Muslim doesn't automatically become not a Muslim if he drinks whiskey, fornicates, or runs for president of the USA.

He may be a bad Muslim, but still a Muslim.

I assume "he" because ... you know ... :BigGrin3:
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Re: May a Muslim be president of the United States?

Post by sparks » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:21 pm

Yea, if it were a "she", then they'd be compelled to remove her head at the shoulders for the 'shame' she brought on them.

Nice fuckers, eh? And so reasonable and rational too.
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Re: May a Muslim be president of the United States?

Post by Doctor X » Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:11 am

sparks wrote:Yea, if it were a "she", then they'd be compelled to remove her head at the shoulders for the 'shame' she brought on them.

Nice fuckers, eh? And so reasonable and rational too.
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Re: May a Muslim be president of the United States?

Post by sparks » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:24 am

Thank FSM. Entertainment value must be nurtured. :)
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Re: May a Muslim be president of the United States?

Post by Doctor X » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:25 am

Or thrashed in the streets for the entertainment of the peasants.

That is, I suppose, a manner of "nurture."

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Re: May a Muslim be president of the United States?

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:07 am

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Re: May a Muslim be president of the United States?

Post by sparks » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:32 pm

Doctor X wrote:Or thrashed in the streets for the entertainment of the peasants.

That is, I suppose, a manner of "nurture."

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