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Re: Never heard The Pope speak English before

Postby Witness » Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:43 am

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Re: Never heard The Pope speak English before

Postby Nyarlathotep » Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:51 pm

The Look on Pope Frankie's face is priceless. You can almost hear him saying

"The fuck is this shit?"
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Re: Never heard The Pope speak English before

Postby Doctor X » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:55 pm

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Re: Never heard The Pope speak English before

Postby Witness » Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:43 am

Haven't had the time to look into it, but seems the Pope has some ironical troubles: two people he appointed for cleaning up the Vatican's working have been arrested… :twisted:

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Re: Never heard The Pope speak English before

Postby Anaxagoras » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:59 am

Witness wrote:Haven't had the time to look into it, but seems the Pope has some ironical troubles: two people he appointed for cleaning up the Vatican's working have been arrested… :twisted:


. . . by the Vatican.

I guess the Vatican can arrest people? They have their own police and such?

The only church I know of that is treated as its own sovereign state, subject to its own laws and immune from any secular authority . . .

http://www.npr.org/2015/11/03/454192872 ... estigation

STEVE INSKEEP, HOST:

The Vatican has arrested two of its employees. One is a monsignor, a high-level priest. The other is a public relations specialist. They're both suspected of leaking confidential information to the media. And they were taken into custody just before the publication of two books that promised to reveal scandal within the Holy See. NPR's Sylvia Poggioli is covering this story from Rome. Hi, Sylvia.

SYLVIA POGGIOLI, BYLINE: Hi, Steve.

INSKEEP: What did these two allegedly leak?

POGGIOLI: Well, we don't know. There's no official charge yet. But the presumption is that this is a preemptive strike on the part of the Vatican before the release of these two books that have been getting a lot of attention in the media here.

INSKEEP: OK, so whatever's in those books, they're suspected of having something to do with it. Who are these two suspects then?

POGGIOLI: Well, one is a Spanish priest, Lucio Angel Vallejo Balda. He's the number two at the Vatican's Prefecture for Economic Affairs. The woman is Francesca Chaouqui. Both were members of a commission that Pope Francis set up shortly after he became pope to analyze the Vatican's economic departments and suggest reform.

INSKEEP: OK, so it's economic information of some kind that they would have had access to. Were these particularly prominent employees of the Vatican, Sylvia?


About these books:

Vatican hit by new claims of financial mismanagement and lavish spending

Ever since his election as spiritual head of the Roman Catholic church in 2013, Pope Francis has always said he wants a church for the poor.

But two controversial new books describe a Vatican awash with cash that is woefully mismanaged, where senior officials pour church funds into their already-lavish apartments, and where even the office that researches candidates for sainthood has had its bank accounts frozen out of concerns about financial impropriety.

According to Gianluigi Nuzzi’s Merchants in the Temple, due to be published on Thursday, one high-ranking Vatican official, Monsignor Giuseppe Sciacca, was so keen on improving his apartment that he took it upon himself to knock down a wall separating his flat from his elderly neighbour’s. When the elderly priest returned from hospital, where he had been very ill, he found his things had been packed in boxes.

“As soon as he opened the door he realised something was wrong: his apartment had been modified, and was missing one room, but he was too old to fight back and seek justice,” Nuzzi wrote. The priest died a short time later. Sciacca was demoted a few months into Pope Francis’s tenure, with a new position at a tribunal that handles legal and administrative cases.

Nuzzi’s book is not the only publication to be raising eyebrows in Rome this week. Avarice, a work by journalist Emiliano Fittipaldi also to be released on Thursday, delves into allegations of financial shenanigans, including an allegation that the Vatican’s former secretary of state, Tarcisio Bertone, used €200,000 (£142,000) from a foundation meant to support the Bambino Gesù paediatric hospital in Rome to renovate his own apartment. Under an agreement alleged in the book, the “mega-penthouse” could, in exchange, be used for hospital functions.

According to La Repubblica, which published excerpts of the book, Bertone told Fittipaldi that he had paid his share of the renovation costs.

The embarrassing allegations were unveiled a day after the Vatican announced it had arrested two members of a former Vatican committee on suspicion of leaking documents that apparently formed the basis of the books’ key allegations.
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Re: Never heard The Pope speak English before

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Re: Never heard The Pope speak English before

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:43 am

Anaxagoras wrote:The only church I know of that is treated as its own sovereign state, subject to its own laws and immune from any secular authority . . .


The Vatican is a sovereign state, not the church as such.

The pope is the "temporal ruler" of the Vatican.

The form of government is the same a The Papal States before the papacy gave up all that territory.
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Re: Never heard The Pope speak English before

Postby Witness » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:19 am

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