The FLDS 'seed bearers'

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The FLDS 'seed bearers'

Post by Anaxagoras » Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:38 am

Amazing what the brainwashed will put up with!

(In case anyone doesn't know or needs their memory refreshed, the FLDS is the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a schism from the main Mormon church that renounced polygamy. The FLDS still practices polygamy. The leader of the church, Warren Jeffs is in prison for sexual abuse of children, but apparently he still leads the church from within prison.)

Polygamist sect limits sex to 'seed bearers,' court document says

Here's the kicker:
"A seed bearer is an elect man of a worthy bloodline chosen by the Priesthood to impregnate the FLDS woman," according to Charlene Jeffs' petition. Under a new doctrine, "FLDS men are no longer permitted to have children with their multiple wives. That privilege belongs to the seed bearer alone," the petition said. "It is the husband's responsibility to hold the hands of their wives while the seed bearer 'spreads his seed.'
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Re: The FLDS 'seed bearers'

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:08 am

Eugenics. :)
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Re: The FLDS 'seed bearers'

Post by specious_reasons » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:31 pm

Well, this is probably the destruction of this sect. The church leaders want multiple wives, but with a birth rate of around 50/50 male/female, you wind up with unmarried men. Unmarried men can make trouble, so the FDLS kicks out most teenaged boys.

Now, you're making most men be effectively unmarried men, or even worse cuckolded. I imagine if this is true, FDLS is on the verge of a coup.
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Re: The FLDS 'seed bearers'

Post by hammegk » Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:25 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Eugenics. :)
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Re: The FLDS 'seed bearers'

Post by Anaxagoras » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:23 pm

specious_reasons wrote:Well, this is probably the destruction of this sect. The church leaders want multiple wives, but with a birth rate of around 50/50 male/female, you wind up with unmarried men. Unmarried men can make trouble, so the FDLS kicks out most teenaged boys.

Now, you're making most men be effectively unmarried men, or even worse cuckolded. I imagine if this is true, FDLS is on the verge of a coup.
A "coup"? I don't think that's how cults work. You could have a schism, but these people sheeple are brainwashed. Sheep and cattle don't overthrow the farmer.
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Re: The FLDS 'seed bearers'

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:37 pm

The question is what traits are they selecting for, and are those traits really genetic?

And what genetic traits are they perhaps inadvertently selecting? :BigGrin3:
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Re: The FLDS 'seed bearers'

Post by Doctor X » Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:05 am

I would recommend When Prophecy Fails regarding what happens when a cult meets a challenge.

Such tends to weed-out the doubters and the uncommitted. The rest, who have already invested a great deal of time, emotion, and often money, would prefer to believe one more lie than admit they have been fooled.

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Re: The FLDS 'seed bearers'

Post by hammegk » Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:58 pm

Doctor X wrote:I would recommend When Prophecy Fails regarding what happens when a cult meets a challenge.

Such tends to weed-out the doubters and the uncommitted. The rest, who have already invested a great deal of time, emotion, and often money, would prefer to believe one more lie than admit they have been fooled.

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Re: The FLDS 'seed bearers'

Post by Doctor X » Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:17 pm

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Re: The FLDS 'seed bearers'

Post by hammegk » Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:15 pm

Still dancing, kewl.

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Re: The FLDS 'seed bearers'

Post by Doctor X » Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:29 pm

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DocX: FTW.--sparks
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Re: The FLDS 'seed bearers'

Post by Witness » Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:25 am

Anaxagoras wrote:
"It is the husband's responsibility to hold the hands of their wives while the seed bearer 'spreads his seed.'
What is the canonical position?
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Re: The FLDS 'seed bearers'

Post by Doctor X » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:49 am

A successful cult always involves the control of sex.

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Re: The FLDS 'seed bearers'

Post by sparks » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:46 pm

Well, that's funny. I never heard them called 'seed bearers' before.






Baby rapers, yes. But seed bearers, no.
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Re: The FLDS 'seed bearers'

Post by DrMatt » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:03 pm

Not good for the gene pool
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Re: The FLDS 'seed bearers'

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:15 pm

DrMatt wrote:Not good for the gene pool
A value judgment based on your own cultural prejudices about what a gene pool is for. :evil:

It not like this is an FLDS original in terms of behavior. Only in terms of terminology.

It works real well for certain Muslims, too. :Muhammad:

Jews too. Until they picked up that goyische monogamy business.
One man, one woman. Sounds like some kind of socialism.
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Re: The FLDS 'seed bearers'

Post by sparks » Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:42 pm

With the male contribution limited to the baby rapers seed bearers, eventually you must come to an Uncle Dad and Aunt Mom scenario.

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Re: The FLDS 'seed bearers'

Post by Doctor X » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:20 pm

It is Biblically Qualified.

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Re: The FLDS 'seed bearers'

Post by sparks » Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:49 pm

"...pack of raped whores!"

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Post by Doctor X » Sat Oct 10, 2015 12:50 am

Remember:

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"Doctor X is just treating you the way he treats everyone--as subhuman crap too dumb to breathe in after you breathe out."--Don
DocX: FTW.--sparks
"Doctor X wins again."--Pyrrho
"Never sorry to make a racist Fucktard cry."--His Humble MagNIfIcence
"It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone."--clarsct
"I'd leave it up to Doctor X who has been a benevolent tyrant so far."--Grammatron
"Indeed you are a river to your people.
Shit. That's going to end up in your sig."--Pyrrho
"Try a twelve step program and accept Doctor X as your High Power."--asthmatic camel
"just like Doc X said." --gnome

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