Fewer Than 1 Million Jews Killed in Holocaust -- No not revisionism.

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Fewer Than 1 Million Jews Killed in Holocaust -- No not revisionism.

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:36 pm

No denial here of how many killed.

Just that the six million or so were mostly not really Jews.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/1.694868

... Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi says rate of intermarriage in Europe before the Holocaust proves fewer than 1 million real Jews actually perished. ...


Contrast with the Lubavitchers, who say they were all holy martyrs.
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Re: Fewer Than 1 Million Jews Killed in Holocaust -- No not revisionism.

Post by Pyrrho » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:56 pm

I think that the motherly distinction he makes was not considered by the Nazis.
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Post by specious_reasons » Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:00 pm

It is a common practice for ultra-Orthodox Jews to claim other Jews aren't really Jews? Or is this just this rabbis' personal bugaboo?
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:53 pm

specious_reasons wrote:It is a common practice for ultra-Orthodox Jews to claim other Jews aren't really Jews? Or is this just this rabbis' personal bugaboo?


Somewhere in between.

I never heard this particular line before, but most Orthodox Jews take the line that the Holocaust happened because Jews did not behave as Jews, whereas the Lubavitchers do not.

The main "who is a Jew" controversy is not so much about intermarriage as it is who has the authority to accept converts.
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Post by corplinx » Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:22 pm

Only 1 million members of the tribe of Judah died. Got it.

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Post by corplinx » Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:24 pm

"To the non-Jews, everyone who has a little bit of Jewish blood is Jewish," Mizrachi explained. "For example, according to secular law, Howard Stern, the impure, despicable man, is a Jew."

But, Mizrachi contends, his mother is not Jewish, so "it is forbidden for a [Jewish] woman to marry him." Someone in the audience can be heard asking who is Howard Stern.



Someone is trolling for radio airtime obviously...

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Re: Fewer Than 1 Million Jews Killed in Holocaust -- No not revisionism.

Post by Ben Trovado » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:16 pm

So 5 million extra people who were "No True Jews" (to coin a phrase) were killed anyway, so . . . .

Actually, I am having a hard time with the point of that micro-fine distinction. Does this make the Nazis more evil, or less -- or just poor Judaic scholars?

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Re: Fewer Than 1 Million Jews Killed in Holocaust -- No not revisionism.

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:19 pm

Ben Trovado wrote:Actually, I am having a hard time with the point of that micro-fine distinction. Does this make the Nazis more evil, or less -- or just poor Judaic scholars?


My analysis:
The Rabbi in question is trolling in real life. Not that he does not believe what he says, but the way he says it is deliberately calculated to anger other Jews.

In particular, other "ultras" who don't like to be lumped in with him.
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Re: Fewer Than 1 Million Jews Killed in Holocaust -- No not revisionism.

Post by ed » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:54 pm

Ben Trovado wrote:So 5 million extra people who were "No True Jews" (to coin a phrase) were killed anyway, so . . . .

Actually, I am having a hard time with the point of that micro-fine distinction. Does this make the Nazis more evil, or less -- or just poor Judaic scholars?



It makes the Nazis marginally more acceptable as an organization that jews can join.
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Re: Fewer Than 1 Million Jews Killed in Holocaust -- No not revisionism.

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:54 pm

ed wrote:
Ben Trovado wrote:So 5 million extra people who were "No True Jews" (to coin a phrase) were killed anyway, so . . . .

Actually, I am having a hard time with the point of that micro-fine distinction. Does this make the Nazis more evil, or less -- or just poor Judaic scholars?



It makes the Nazis marginally more acceptable as an organization that jews can join.


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