I missed the Joel Osteen Hate Fest

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I missed the Joel Osteen Hate Fest

Postby corplinx » Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:54 pm

This guy got thumped and used as a whipping boy after the hurricane since you can't meme a hurricane out of a job.

I've seen people criticize as critics as being overly harsh or unfair to him. So let me just say this.

Unfair criticism is unfair and in general I do not support smears against even deplorable people.

Joel Osteen is a fraud and mountebank.

He is a part of a movement of cons within evangelical circles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosperity_theology

Not surprisingly, these people wind up on TV often.

Here's how the scam works.
a. Setup a church in a reasonably wealthy area where your flock will gladly hear that their success is due to their faith. "Hey, my new Lexus is a sign I'm blessed"
b. When poors come in, they see everyone in their better cars and homes and think they just need to tithe more to "get theirs".

There is a narrative that this pastor is being unfairly attacked by secular humanists. Oh noes! Next they will want to ban Jesus!

Some of those awful secular humanists are probably your internet atheist plus anti-religious types who like to take the piss out of preachers anytime they can.

However, Joel Osteen is in a class of charlatan's that exploits the desperate hopes of the poor. He is one turd higher on the shitheap than the predators who exploit the desperation of the sick and disabled.

That's who Osteen is.

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Re: I missed the Joel Osteen Hate Fest

Postby Witness » Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:59 pm

Does that mean your offering has been scorned? :shock:

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Re: I missed the Joel Osteen Hate Fest

Postby Grammatron » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:51 pm

corplinx wrote:There is a narrative that this pastor is being unfairly attacked by secular humanists. Oh noes! Next they will want to ban Jesus!


The video that got the hate-train rolling was from a guy who is a believer and supports Joel Osteen. But he was upset that the property was locked rather than open for those in need. I think there's en element of "piling on" but the accusations have been fairly on point and Joel Osteen is a cunt.
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Re: I missed the Joel Osteen Hate Fest

Postby Doctor X » Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:59 pm

Not enough bad things can happen to him.

The "Prosperity Theory" is very old. Randi writes about it in The Faith Healers. A common canned response to his inquiries involved the story of the seed of faith . . . are you willing to plant that seed?

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Re: I missed the Joel Osteen Hate Fest

Postby Nyarlathotep » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:04 pm

corplinx wrote:
However, Joel Osteen is in a class of charlatan's that exploits the desperate hopes of the poor. He is one turd higher on the shitheap than the predators who exploit the desperation of the sick and disabled.


I think referring to him as being one whole turd higher on the shitheap is giving him far too much credit.
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Re: I missed the Joel Osteen Hate Fest

Postby corplinx » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:37 pm

Doctor X wrote:Not enough bad things can happen to him.

The "Prosperity Theory" is very old. Randi writes about it in The Faith Healers. A common canned response to his inquiries involved the story of the seed of faith . . . are you willing to plant that seed?

--J.D.



I think that faith healing steals the outrage somewhat. Taking advantage of sick/dying people is so abhorrent.

What they did getting on the mailing lists of the faith healers was great work.

Makes you wonder what the Prosperity "Gospel" flim flam men have on their private lists.

I'm sure there are many wonderful stories about people needing money to make their cay payment but giving their last 10 bucks to Christ anyway... but lo and behold... unexpected fortune!!!

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Re: I missed the Joel Osteen Hate Fest

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:12 pm

I never heard of him before this, and now I keep forgetting who he is. :)
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Re: I missed the Joel Osteen Hate Fest

Postby shemp » Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:33 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:I never heard of him before this, and now I keep forgetting who he is. :)


He's a smarmy piece of shit who steals from the poor and gives to himself.
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Re: I missed the Joel Osteen Hate Fest

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:00 am

shemp wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:I never heard of him before this, and now I keep forgetting who he is. :)


He's a smarmy piece of shit who steals from the poor and gives to himself.


Indeed. But a very run of the mill one.

This publicity will help his career in the long run. People will remember hearing his name but not the specifics,
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