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Old gods need not apply

Post by Witness » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:52 am

The Guardian wrote:Deus ex machina: former Google engineer is developing an AI god

Anthony Levandowski, who is at the center of a legal battle between Uber and Google’s Waymo, has established a nonprofit religious corporation called Way of the Future, according to state filings first uncovered by Wired’s Backchannel. Way of the Future’s startling mission: “To develop and promote the realization of a Godhead based on artificial intelligence and through understanding and worship of the Godhead contribute to the betterment of society.”

Levandowski was co-founder of autonomous trucking company Otto, which Uber bought in 2016. He was fired from Uber in May amid allegations that he had stolen trade secrets from Google to develop Otto’s self-driving technology. He must be grateful for this religious fall-back project, first registered in 2015.

The Way of the Future team did not respond to requests for more information about their proposed benevolent AI overlord, but history tells us that new technologies and scientific discoveries have continually shaped religion, killing old gods and giving birth to new ones.

As author Yuval Noah Harari notes: “That is why agricultural deities were different from hunter-gatherer spirits, why factory hands and peasants fantasised about different paradises, and why the revolutionary technologies of the 21st century are far more likely to spawn unprecedented religious movements than to revive medieval creeds.”

Religions, Harari argues, must keep up with the technological advancements of the day or they become irrelevant, unable to answer or understand the quandaries facing their disciples.
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Re: Old gods need not apply

Post by Mentat » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:10 am

Can we ask it if entropy can be reversed?
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:22 pm

As author Yuval Noah Harari notes: “That is why agricultural deities were different from hunter-gatherer spirits, why factory hands and peasants fantasised about different paradises, and why the revolutionary technologies of the 21st century are far more likely to spawn unprecedented religious movements than to revive medieval creeds.”

Religions, Harari argues, must keep up with the technological advancements of the day or they become irrelevant, unable to answer or understand the quandaries facing their disciples.
Emphasis added.

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Post by Pyrrho » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:34 pm

More from WOTF

https://www.wired.com/story/anthony-lev ... e-religion

"I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream," by Harlan Ellison, would make a good start for a WOTF Bible.
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Post by Witness » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:30 am

From Wired:
Levandowski says that like other religions, WOTF will eventually have a gospel (called The Manual), a liturgy, and probably a physical place of worship. None of these has yet been developed.

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Post by Anaxagoras » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:20 am

What would a WOTF church look like I wonder.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:14 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:What would a WOTF church look like I wonder.
If the adherents like to play dress up, they could just join the Episcopalians.

Nobody would bother about their "theology" as long as there is none of that "getting saved" dope. :cowbell:
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Post by ed » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:23 pm

Witness wrote:From Wired:
Levandowski says that like other religions, WOTF will eventually have a gospel (called The Manual), a liturgy, and probably a physical place of worship. None of these has yet been developed.
Well, the iconography is easy

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Post by Anaxagoras » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:47 pm

ed wrote: Well, the iconography is easy

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Not "Future" enough. More like this:
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Post by Nyarlathotep » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:05 pm

I don't get why we need to worship anything.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:34 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:I don't get why we need to worship anything.
Look at this guy and ask the question again. :)

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Post by Nyarlathotep » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:54 pm

Looked.

Still asking. People in ancient days were easily amused/impressed
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:23 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:Looked.

Still asking. People in ancient days were easily amused/impressed
Aw c'mon. He's cool. :mrgreen:
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Post by Rob Lister » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:34 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:Looked.

Still asking. People in ancient days were easily amused/impressed
I've got kind of a word about that. I think those folks back then were just as amused/impressed as we are today. They may not have been as wise as are we, but they were no less smart.

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Post by Nyarlathotep » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:54 pm

Actually, I think the reverse is true. They were just as wise, but they didn't have all our neat toys. Thus any given thing designed to amuse/impress them had far less competition. THus it was easier to accomplish
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Post by Rob Lister » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:35 am

They sat in the hot sun without air conditioning philosophizing all fucking day long. They had it going on that way. All we have is the internet.

I trust them and their many gods.

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Post by Witness » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:44 am

Rob Lister wrote:They sat in the hot sun without air conditioning philosophizing all fucking day long.
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Different, sure. Stupid, not so much.

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Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:49 am

Where the Stoics hung out.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:36 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:Where the Stoics hung out.
While the Dionysiacs were having fun. :twisted:
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Post by izittrue » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:13 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:I don't get why we need to worship anything.
So we don't have to look at ourselves
Oh and religion needs our money too.
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