Texas ed committee says ok to degree in creationism

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Texas ed committee says ok to degree in creationism

Post by Nigel » Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:02 pm

Article here.
On Friday, an advisory committee to the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board recommended that the state allow the Institute for Creation Research to start offering online master’s degrees in science education.
True, it's like a "non-binding resolution", but it's not good news.
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Post by sparks » Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:36 pm

Can you imagine presenting a prospective employer a resume wherein the crowning glory is your Masters in Superstition and Religious Woo? :shock:
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:42 pm

So what is a master’s degree in science education from The Institute for Creation Research worth?

An on-line master's degree at that?

Looks good on a resume if you're looking for a pulpit in an upscale fundie church?

Maybe. Or maybe they'd want a degree from actually attending a Bible college. At least this degree comes properly labelled.
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Post by Luke T. » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:40 pm

The problem is that whoever earns this degree can henceforth put "Doctor" in front of their name, see. It sounds good for TV and print, see.

"Up next on WEXTV News, Doctor Propellerhead announces an amazing find that could throw out everything we think we know about the age of the Grand Canyon..."
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Post by eli54 » Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:21 pm

Wonder how much it costs? Do you make up the answers as you go?

I've got a friend who's an ordained minister, Rev. Dr. C.J. Wakula, Pope of the Anti-Church: "FIRST CHURCH of the GOOD DEATH and DISCOUNT HOUSE OF WORSHIP"

Doctor Eli sounds pretty cool.
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Post by Nigel » Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:28 pm

This bit got me:
from the link wrote: “Advanced Studies in Creationism” features this description: “Scientific study of the creationist and evolutionist cosmologies; origin and history of the universe, of the solar systems, of life, of the various forms of life, and of man and his cultures.
The entire course consists of the prof saying, "God did it." Class adjourned.
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Good death? I've got that album, and for some reason, it always sounded like "Gooey death" to me! :lol:
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Post by Eos of the Eons » Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:33 am

Welll, Texas ed folks fired the science person for being biased towards evolution
http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2007 ... nce-c.html
Her real crime: daring to tell people about a lecture critical of intelligent design.
Now they offer creationut degrees instead! Yep, you USAians are gonna be behind the rest of the world in science because real science is no longer allowed in your country. Thank the almighty leader who claims he listens to the almighty for sending you back into the dark ages.
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Post by sparks » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:33 am

So, she didn't give a lecture critical of Idiot Design, she merely mentioned a lecture critical of it?

Wow! My Dad was from Texas. No wonder he never wanted to go back once he escaped. Indeed, in retrospect (ed rest his soul) I think he was embarressed about it. I pointed out to him (during any number of all-nighters at the bar in the recreation room) that he needn't be, as he'd dragged himself up by his bootstraps and had done damn well by by himself and his family (us).

And now this shit. A degree in woo.

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Post by DrMatt » Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:56 pm

When the Nation of Texas attacks and decides to annex the Lakota Nation, times will be interesting. Meanwhile, I hope Chris Comer sues the pants off the state under the first and fourteenth amendments, in federal court (a search of the Internet shows that the Texas legislature and governor have repeatedly thrown out anti-SLAPP statutes so local courts won't cut it).
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Re: Texas ed committee says ok to degree in creationism

Post by Girl Friday » Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:08 pm

On Friday, an advisory committee to the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board recommended that the state allow the Institute for Creation Research to start offering online master’s degrees in science education.


:shock: O.k. I'm scared now...Hmmmm....or maybe this will give me license to start my own religion! Yea....I like found this book in my back yard...and a big golden Jackalope came out of the woods and talked to me. He told me to collect $10,000 in Dog and Cat food coupons by the end of the year or he'd bring me home to God.
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Post by Girl Friday » Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:11 pm

sparks wrote:So, she didn't give a lecture critical of Idiot Design, she merely mentioned a lecture critical of it?

Wow! My Dad was from Texas. No wonder he never wanted to go back once he escaped. Indeed, in retrospect (ed rest his soul) I think he was embarressed about it. I pointed out to him (during any number of all-nighters at the bar in the recreation room) that he needn't be, as he'd dragged himself up by his bootstraps and had done damn well by by himself and his family (us).

And now this shit. A degree in woo.

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Post by masaru » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:16 am

This may be somewhat off topic but... I can't help but notice how, this Christmas season, there is a giant, florescent lighted cross perched atop our local (I live in Texas) police station. I'm almost certain that it's a constitutional violation of the separation of church and state, but I'd rather take my aspirin for the time being than argue about it in public. It's ridiculous, but it seems to be the will of the majority - at least the majority of people voting and calling the shots.

As far as I know, no one else has complained and most people don't know any better.

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Post by DrMatt » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:11 pm

I found on-line the "Smoking gun" memo. It's a FYI in which Chris Comer passed on a message from Glenn Branch (OUR Glenn Branch) announcing a presentation in Austin by Barbara Forrest (OUR Barbara Forrest) about her role in Kitzmiller vs Dover School District.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... ution3.pdf

We'll see how this plays out.
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