An Ivy League professor on why colleges don’t hire more faculty of color: ‘We don’t want them’

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An Ivy League professor on why colleges don’t hire more faculty of color: ‘We don’t want them’

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:28 pm

An Ivy League professor on why colleges don’t hire more faculty of color: ‘We don’t want them’ (Wapo)

It's counterintuitive, what with affirmative action + colleges being "liberal".

It also goes against my own observations, but that was back around 1990 and decidedly not Ivy League.


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Re: An Ivy League professor on why colleges don’t hire more faculty of color: ‘We don’t want them’

Post by Rob Lister » Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:12 pm

She took the time to give us a more detailed explanation. She conveniently left out any evidence whatsoever.
I saw some numbers but they were all dates; nary a single stat.

Just to give this a quick sniff test.

I Looked at a few numbers just to get a feel, first stats found.
U.S. racial makeup
White 77.7%
Black 13.2%
Hispanic 17.1%
Asian/pacific Islander 5.3%
Other 1.2%
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-2 ... rs-chicago
Among full-time professors
White, 84%
Black 4%
Hispanic, 3%
Asian/Pacific Islander, 9%.
Other 2%
https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=61

If Quality is a euphemism for White then Asians must be double-White.

And Jews quadrupley so
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Okay, that mixes apples and oranges a bit (students/professors) but I could not find a prof-only stat.

Anyway, I can't make her curve fit without redefining race.
But what if we look at SAT scores. I but that curve fits perfectly.

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Re: An Ivy League professor on why colleges don’t hire more faculty of color: ‘We don’t want them’

Post by Anaxagoras » Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:24 pm

But I thought "Hispanic" wasn't a real ethnic group. Looks like there's even fewer of them relative to their population than black professors.
I wonder if you set things like Africana Studies aside and just looked at professors in fields not related to racial issues what the percentage would be.
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Re: An Ivy League professor on why colleges don’t hire more faculty of color: ‘We don’t want them’

Post by Rob Lister » Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:35 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:But I thought "Hispanic" wasn't a real ethnic group. Looks like there's even fewer of them relative to their population than black professors.
I wonder if you set things like Africana Studies aside and just looked at professors in fields not related to racial issues what the percentage would be.
According to the Census it isn't (unless look at the footnotes)

But everybody knows they're different.

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Re: An Ivy League professor on why colleges don’t hire more faculty of color: ‘We don’t want them’

Post by Anaxagoras » Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:41 pm

Rob Lister wrote:
Anaxagoras wrote:But I thought "Hispanic" wasn't a real ethnic group. Looks like there's even fewer of them relative to their population than black professors.
I wonder if you set things like Africana Studies aside and just looked at professors in fields not related to racial issues what the percentage would be.
According to the Census it isn't (unless look at the footnotes)
Yeah if you add up all those percentages they add up to more than 100 so there must be some overlap with the Hispanics. It's about 113 for the population and 102 for the professors.
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Re: An Ivy League professor on why colleges don’t hire more faculty of color: ‘We don’t want them’

Post by Rob Lister » Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:18 pm

I'm betting that all of it can be put pretty much aside by looking at the SAT scores. Sure, [racial] politics will play play a small part (once a huge part, but in the opposite direction) but today Quality really is Quality minus racial politics.