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Re: Circular runways

Postby ed » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:27 am

Rob Lister wrote:
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Finally, this:

When allowing limited crosswind, airspace users can shorten the global trajectory of the flights through optimized departure and arrival routes.


This last isn't english. It sounds a bit like a priest explaining transubstantiation.


It isn't goodly English, for sure. Better

Where there is little or no crosswind, airliners can take off in the same direction of their destination rather than at some tangent to it.

I suppose that might save a little fuel.


WTF Rob? Really? Since when does "taking off in the direction of their destination" have any meaning? In other words you have planes flying off this stupid russian inspired runway like fucking sparks from a Cathrine Wheel without regard to incoming traffic or wind? And with a circular runway, ALL WIND IS CROSSWIND!!!!!!!

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Re: Circular runways

Postby Rob Lister » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:30 am

Make all airliners VTOL capable. That will solve all the problems.

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Re: Circular runways

Postby ed » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:42 am

Bingo.

either that or walk.
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Re: Circular runways

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:56 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:Not a new idea:

Popular Science, 1966


That's the one. :oldman:
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Re: Circular runways

Postby no one in particular » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:01 pm

It's too bad foreign countries don't make their runways circular. It would make for better bulls-eyes for our Tomahawk missiles.
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Re: Circular runways

Postby sparks » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:09 pm

Rob Lister wrote:Make all airliners VTOL capable. That will solve all the problems.


I'd love to see Boeing build one of those. Wonder how extra bad it would be on fuel because it could VTOL?
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Re: Circular runways

Postby Rob Lister » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:56 pm

sparks wrote:
Rob Lister wrote:Make all airliners VTOL capable. That will solve all the problems.


I'd love to see Boeing build one of those. Wonder how extra bad it would be on fuel because it could VTOL?


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Re: Circular runways

Postby sparks » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:59 pm

Have to wait until I get home to see it. Work network won't allow it.

Not that I'm....wasting time....at work.....or anything like that....
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Re: Circular runways

Postby ceptimus » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:08 pm

You'd need a very clear convention on whether these runways are used clockwise or anticlockwise - and every airport in the world that has such a runway had better adopt the same system!

Runway landing lights with the shutters so that the pilots see different colours if they are too high or too low on approach might be more of a problem. Also the instrument landing systems where the plane flies down an electronic beam lined up with the runway - for these circular affairs you'd need loads of beams at different tangents to the circle.

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Re: Circular runways

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Re: Circular runways

Postby ed » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:19 am

Rob Lister wrote:
ed wrote:
Finally, this:

When allowing limited crosswind, airspace users can shorten the global trajectory of the flights through optimized departure and arrival routes.


This last isn't english. It sounds a bit like a priest explaining transubstantiation.


It isn't goodly English, for sure. Better

Where there is little or no crosswind, airliners can take off in the same direction of their destination rather than at some tangent to it.

I suppose that might save a little fuel.


OK. Now it is merely stupid as opposed to being stupid and incomprehensible.
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Re: Circular runways

Postby Rob Lister » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:32 am



LOL. He didn't do a very good job in defending his thesis.

This was probably the funniest. He replies to a concern about landing in cases of nose wheel steering emergencies

Henk Hesselink: Obviously, as we are making a turn during the landing, the ILS (Instrument Landing System) will not function. But we may be able to use an ILS-system for part of the approach phase, the first part is still straight-in.

Either we put a simple form of ILS on each direction of the runway, or we can install a movable ILS-system that will move around the runway, for example on a rail-track . It is a bit far-fetched, I know.


Like a greyhound race track, the jumbo jet chases a fake rabbit on a stick.

Yea, a bit far-fetched.

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Re: Circular runways

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:51 pm

If it's short runways you want, why not have catapults like on aircraft carriers and fit all the jumbo jets with tailhooks?

How hard could it be? ;)
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Re: Circular runways

Postby sparks » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:25 pm

I predict it will eliminate the problem of over booked flights.

Hell, why not just build a new kind of plane that can't do anything but fly in circles? Takes off in a circle, Earth rotates underneath it, it lands in a circle at the destination...
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Re: Circular runways

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:32 pm

sparks wrote:I predict it will eliminate the problem of over booked flights.

Hell, why not just build a new kind of plane that can't do anything but fly in circles? Takes off in a circle, Earth rotates underneath it, it lands in a circle at the destination...


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Re: Circular runways

Postby sparks » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:36 pm

Free world planes will fly clockwise. All the other human rights denying bastards will fly counter clockwise.

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Re: Circular runways

Postby Doctor X » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:04 am

sparks wrote:Takes off in a circle, Earth rotates underneath it, it lands in a circle at the destination...


That was actually an idea, once, way back. I do not remember the documentary on it but Some Guy had the idea long before NASA and Space Aliens[Tm.--Ed.] that you could fly up high enough so the Earth rotates below you. Obviously, it was not practical.

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Re: Circular runways

Postby sparks » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:16 am

Holy shit: I'm channeling Some Guy. Hope to christ there's nothing nice about him...
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Re: Circular runways

Postby Doctor X » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:23 am

I think he was Some Old Kraut so, probably not.

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Re: Circular runways

Postby sparks » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:25 am

Perfect!
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