Cold Fusion Yet Again

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Cold Fusion Yet Again

Post by Rob Lister » Tue May 21, 2013 11:47 pm

And again this should be in the frauds and scams forum but technically it is technology so ...
(Newser) – This is either bombshell, world-changing news or "one of the most elaborate hoaxes in scientific history," reports Mark Gibbs at Forbes. An Italian engineer who claims to have achieved cold fusion—the holy grail of clean energy—says his E-Cat device has been deemed credible by an independent team of scientists from European universities. They're all legit scientists with reputations on the line, writes Gibbs, but there's one huge caveat: Their paper has yet to undergo peer review. If inventor Andrea Rossi is right, however, it would mean cheap, pollution-free power for the world. Think "10,000 times the energy density and 1,000 times the power density of gasoline," notes ExtremeTech.


I sometimes think that anything coming from an Italian scientist should have scare quotes around 'scientist'. It isn't really fair except that's were all the woo seems to originate. That might be confirmation bias on my part. India and Russia are still big players in woo too.

Anyway ... and who are these independent team of scientists? Donno. Neither the article or the linked article sez. I suspect there's a few cousins at a community college is at the bottom of it.

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Re: Cold Fusion Yet Again

Post by ed » Tue May 21, 2013 11:53 pm

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Re: Cold Fusion Yet Again

Post by Doctor X » Wed May 22, 2013 12:44 am

Because submission to Nature and Science and the resulting Nobel Prize is far more difficult than cold fusion.

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Re: Cold Fusion Yet Again

Post by Mentat » Wed May 22, 2013 12:48 am

There's this phrase called 'primary source' . . .
It's "pea-can", man.

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Re: Cold Fusion Yet Again

Post by Rob Lister » Wed May 22, 2013 1:35 pm

Maybe before we rush to adopt <cold fusion> we should consider the consequences of blithely giving this technology such a central position in our lives.

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Re: Cold Fusion Yet Again

Post by Bearguin » Wed May 22, 2013 3:41 pm

Rob Lister wrote:Maybe before we rush to adopt <cold fusion> we should consider the consequences of blithely giving this technology such a central position in our lives.
Cold fusion is nothing like Google Glasses.

If true, it is earth shattering. But before we rush to adopt it, let's be sure it works first.

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Re: Cold Fusion Yet Again

Post by Mentat » Wed May 22, 2013 8:39 pm

Bearguin wrote:
Rob Lister wrote:Maybe before we rush to adopt <cold fusion> we should consider the consequences of blithely giving this technology such a central position in our lives.
Cold fusion is nothing like Google Glasses.

If true, it is earth shattering. But before we rush to adopt it, let's be sure it works first.
RL is quoting xkcd
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Re: Cold Fusion Yet Again

Post by DrMatt » Wed May 22, 2013 8:51 pm

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Re: Cold Fusion Yet Again

Post by Rob Lister » Wed May 22, 2013 10:57 pm

Mentat wrote:
Bearguin wrote:
Rob Lister wrote:Maybe before we rush to adopt <cold fusion> we should consider the consequences of blithely giving this technology such a central position in our lives.
Cold fusion is nothing like Google Glasses.

If true, it is earth shattering. But before we rush to adopt it, let's be sure it works first.
RL is quoting xkcd
obvious much?

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Re: Cold Fusion Yet Again

Post by Mentat » Wed May 22, 2013 11:04 pm

It is sometimes necessary for the cultured folk to elucidate supratrivial matters for the simpler-minded rabble.
It's "pea-can", man.

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Re: Cold Fusion Yet Again

Post by Bearguin » Sun May 26, 2013 5:27 pm

Mentat wrote:It is sometimes necessary for the cultured folk to elucidate supratrivial matters for the simpler-minded rabble.
Are you fucking stupid? You telling me that my reference to google glasses didn't clue you in?

Did you even read the fucking comic?

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Re: Cold Fusion Yet Again

Post by Mentat » Sun May 26, 2013 5:36 pm

The hell has gotten into you?
It's "pea-can", man.

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Re: Cold Fusion Yet Again

Post by ed » Sun May 26, 2013 5:49 pm

Mentat wrote:It is sometimes necessary for the cultured folk to elucidate supratrivial matters for the simpler-minded rabble.
One must exercise care in so doing since it can (and often does) result in nosebleeds in the presumed beneficiaries of such largess.
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Re: Cold Fusion Yet Again

Post by ed » Sun May 26, 2013 5:50 pm

Mentat wrote:The hell has gotten into you?
<sotto voce>He has a nosebleed. </>
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Re: Cold Fusion Yet Again

Post by Mentat » Sun May 26, 2013 5:53 pm

ed wrote:
Mentat wrote:The hell has gotten into you?
<sotto voce>He has a nosebleed. </>
It's been that kind of a week, hasn't it?
It's "pea-can", man.

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Re: Cold Fusion Yet Again

Post by Rob Lister » Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:21 pm

So to resurrect this thread it seems somebody has a good clue as to why the experiment generated heat.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/nuclea ... -reactions
Interesting and hairy theory that if true would have lots of practical uses.

But it ain't cold fusion.

They provided pictures so I was able to understand it.

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Re: Cold Fusion Yet Again

Post by Anaxagoras » Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:28 pm

So, quantum stuff?

Doesn't sound practical for energy generation on a large scale.
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