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Re: Google Self-Driving Car Accident Reports

Post by Pyrrho » Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:33 pm

https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/23/a-goo ... iew-today/
A Google self-driving Lexus RX 450h was involved in a crash with a van in Mountain View, Calif. on Friday afternoon, according to local police. Thankfully, nobody was injured in the accident.

TechCrunch has reached out to Google for more information.

Two local TV stations, KRON and KPIX, reported that the Google autonomous vehicle had been “in control,” or in its self-driving mode at the time of the crash.

However, the self-driving car was reportedly manned by a Google employee who took over its operation, and applied the brakes when the van’s driver began crossing an intersection, possibly running a red light.
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Re: Google Self-Driving Car Accident Reports

Post by JEROME DA GNOME » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:59 pm

Berlin (AFP) - A Tesla electric car crashed into a tourist bus on a motorway in northern Germany, police said Thursday, with the driver claiming he had activated the car's autopilot system.

The driver of the Tesla car was slightly injured, while the 29 people on board the Danish bus were unhurt in the incident on Wednesday, police in Ratzeburg in Schleswig-Holstein state said.

The 50-year-old driver's car hit the bus as it changed lanes outside the northern town of Gudow.

"We will now have to look into why the autopilot didn't work" to prevent the crash, police said in a statement.

Available for Tesla's Model S electric cars since October 2015, the driverless autopilot system has come under global scrutiny following fatal crashes in northern China in January and in the US state of Florida in May.

The Florida case attracted the attention of a US Senate Committee, which demanded a briefing on the autopilot's role in the accident.

Consumer activists have called on the company, founded by PayPal billionaire Elon Musk, to disable the autopilot feature until it is updated to detect whether the driver's hands are on the steering wheel during operation, as the company says they ought to be.

The driver in Wednesday's crash told police that he had not removed his hands from the wheel while the autopilot was activated, German press agency DPA reported.
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Re: Google Self-Driving Car Accident Reports

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Re: Google Self-Driving Car Accident Reports

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:47 pm

Admittedly not a reliable source, but ...

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Weird how I am always ahead of the plagiarized news.

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Re: Google Self-Driving Car Accident Reports

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Post by JEROME DA GNOME » Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:08 pm

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Re: Google Self-Driving Car Accident Reports

Post by Rob Lister » Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:46 pm

I almost missed September's accident report.
https://static.googleusercontent.com/me ... t-0916.pdf

There were several for September, most occurring while the AV was under manual control. The last one was the most interesting.

Paraphrasing because I can't snip from the report ...

As the Google AV proceeded through a green light ... its autonomous technology detected another vehicle traveling westbound ... approaching the intersection at 30 mph and began to apply the brakes in anticipation that the other vehicle would run through the red light.

The Google AV test driver then disengaged the autonomous technology and took manual control. Immediately thereafter, the other vehicle ran through the red light and collided with the right side of the Google AV at 30 mph.


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Re: Google Self-Driving Car Accident Reports

Post by Anaxagoras » Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:41 am

So it would have avoided an accident if the driver hadn't overridden.

Anecdotal, but a data point in favor of the technology I would say.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:18 am

How would it have gone if the human had been at the wheel in the first place?

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Post by JEROME DA GNOME » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:21 pm

Why are they not releasing the video and the data stream...
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:50 pm

JEROME DA GNOME wrote:Why are they not releasing the video and the data stream...
Why should they? Seriously?

They will analyze it and try to fix it like engineers do.

What are they, running for office or something?

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Post by JEROME DA GNOME » Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:38 pm

Because they are driving around on public roads. Imho, a written report by an obviously bias reporter is not sufficient.
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Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:15 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:How would it have gone if the human had been at the wheel in the first place?

That's the real question.
Same result probably.
The human was at the wheel the whole time. The human didn't notice the car that was going to run the red light.

Even if we can't be 100% certain, we know this sort of thing happens with normal manual cars too. I don't think that's "the real question". It's a question, but a less important question than how would it have gone if the computer had been in control the whole time. We already know more or less how it goes with human drivers. We have decades of data on trillions of miles driven by hundreds millions of human drivers. We have much less data on the computers, which is why it is a more interesting question.

The computer was slowing down because it recognized a potential danger that the human didn't recognize. That much is clear.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:06 am

A human really at the wheel is not the same as suddenly having a manual override.
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Post by Witness » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:07 am

Driverless car tested in the UK (in a pedestrian zone :mrgreen: ):
The autonomy software running the vehicle, called Selenium, was developed by Oxford University's Oxford Robotics Institute and integrated by Oxford University spinout company Oxbotica.
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