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The Future is Now

Postby Pyrrho » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:18 pm

I got yer flying car right here:

https://techcrunch.com/2017/02/13/pal-v ... at-400000/

If you still feel like you were somehow “promised” flying cars based on Popular Science magazine covers in the 1960s then you’re in luck, because Dutch company PAL-V is now accepting pre-orders for its Liberty vehicle, which it calls “the first certified commercial flying car ever.” The three-wheeled ‘car’ has a retractable top-mounted rotor, making it more like a motor trike with gyrocopter skills than a car, per se.


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Re: The Future is Now

Postby no one in particular » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:34 pm

I'll wait on my Terrafugia TF-X.
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Re: The Future is Now

Postby Anaxagoras » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:34 am

The New York Times has a new article about flying cars.

Flying Carmakers

More than a dozen companies — from large to small — are now in various stages of creating flying vehicles.

Terrafugia
Kitty Hawk
Airbus Group
Moller International
Xplorair
PAL-V
Joby Aviation
EHang
Volocopter
Uber
Haynes Aero
Samson Motorworks
AeroMobil
Parajet
Lilium


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/24/tech ... .html?_r=0
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Re: The Future is Now

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:17 pm

Is it (as I suspect) legally classified as an "ultralight aircraft"?

If so, it may be a "flying car" so to speak, but it is illegal for you to fly it over an inhabited area.

No Jetsons for you. :BigGrin3:
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Re: The Future is Now

Postby sparks » Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:53 pm

Flying cars: Just because we can do something doesn't mean we should. Besides, if you want to fly that badly, get a fucking license, plane and insurance for same and knock yourself out.
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Re: The Future is Now

Postby Doctor X » Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:49 pm

But I need to go two blocks to buy beer NOW!

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Re: The Future is Now

Postby Grammatron » Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:24 pm

sparks wrote:Flying cars: Just because we can do something doesn't mean we should. Besides, if you want to fly that badly, get a fucking license, plane and insurance for same and knock yourself out.


Oh look at Bill Gates over here.
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Re: The Future is Now

Postby Rob Lister » Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:50 pm

I shur as shit ain't riding in a flying car until self-driving flying cars are the only flying cars.

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Re: The Future is Now

Postby Anaxagoras » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:11 pm

I agree that these are actually light aircraft or ultralight. And so they likely won't be allowed to fly over populated areas, which considerably limits their usefulness for non-recreational purposes. So only a toy for rich dude-bros, not what anyone will use to commute or go to the supermarket with.
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Re: The Future is Now

Postby Doctor X » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:22 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:I agree that these are actually light aircraft or ultralight. And so they likely won't be allowed to fly over populated areas, which considerably limits their usefulness for non-recreational purposes. So only a toy for rich dude-bros, not what anyone will use to commute or go to the supermarket with.


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Re: The Future is Now

Postby Anaxagoras » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:18 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Is it (as I suspect) legally classified as an "ultralight aircraft"?

If so, it may be a "flying car" so to speak, but it is illegal for you to fly it over an inhabited area.

No Jetsons for you. :BigGrin3:


Someone else thinking along the same lines:

Stop calling them flying cars (The Verge)

Calling them flying cars is really marketing spin for the media. And people are more likely to click on a story with "flying car" in the headline than "ultralight aircraft".

What we’re really talking about is, well, a bunch of different stuff that flies. At it’s Elevate conference in Dallas today, Uber is talking about a network of on-demand, electrically powered, multi-rotor vertical take-off and landing (VTOL) vehicles. Google co-founder Larry Page’s company Kitty Hawk appears to be working on something more akin to an aquatic hoverbike than a flying car. So you can see why a lot of media outlets are using “flying car” as a workaround. Ask yourself: are you more likely to click on a story that says “e-VTOL” or “aquatic hovercraft” in the headline, or “flying car”?

Flying cars, of course, are ridiculous. Wild-eyed inventors have been pursuing the idea for decades, with little to show for it. Many have gone broke, and some have died, trying to turn their fever dreams into reality. The AVE Mizar, pictured at the top, was basically a Ford Pinto with a section of a Cessna Skymaster attached to the roof. During a test flight in 1973, the vehicle crashed, resulting in the death of the vehicle’s inventors.

It’s when they began to grace the covers of magazines like Popular Mechanics and Popular Science that the idea of flying cars became a stand-in for some distant, unattainable future. Those images no doubt inspired many of the flying cars in popular culture we remember best, like The Jetsons, Back to the Future, and Star Wars. They were the magazine covers that launched a thousand nerd fantasies.

“I hate it,” said Mark Moore, the former NASA engineer who now works at Uber, when I asked him how he feels about the terminology. “We’re not driving on the road. I mean, these are much closer to commercial aircraft than anything else that’s being done. They’re just a much smaller size.”
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Re: The Future is Now

Postby sparks » Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:52 am

Grammatron wrote:
sparks wrote:Flying cars: Just because we can do something doesn't mean we should. Besides, if you want to fly that badly, get a fucking license, plane and insurance for same and knock yourself out.


Oh look at Bill Gates over here.


I'll settle for just 10%... And if I had it, I wouldn't do flying. I'd get myself a very very nice sail boat and retire from this mess of shit we call a world.
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Re: The Future is Now

Postby Doctor X » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:06 am

It is funny how the article quoted by Anax Can't Spare a Buck-o-Five captures what the dream has always been: you are in traffic, you are in a crawl, if only you could fly above it. People have had this dream pretty much forever. Indeed, the documentary I suggested to sparks has a ton of example from before WWII.

"If only we could fly."

But for that Buck-o-Five. . . .





Forget all of the practical problems. I mean, really, if you could actually wave your hands and make a "flying car" as described and expected, how the hell does it take off? I suppose like Blade Runner. It just "lifts off" and there is no problem with it in traffic in the sky. The Fifth Element is a most painfully disappointing film, though it does show the problem--traffic jams in air.

But think of that. How do you "stop" in air? How do you "hover?" Answer: you do not!

But I can still dream. . . .

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Re: The Future is Now

Postby Rob Lister » Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:08 am

Doctor X wrote: The Fifth Element is a most painfully disappointing film, ...


Shut your fucking mouth. I love that movie.

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Re: The Future is Now

Postby Grammatron » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:30 pm

Doctor X wrote: The Fifth Element is a most painfully disappointing film, though it does show the problem--traffic jams in air.


Explain please.
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Postby sparks » Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:50 pm

:Popcorn:

(Murky piece of shit IMHO, but carry on...)
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Re: The Future is Now

Postby Doctor X » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:03 am

Grammatron wrote:
Doctor X wrote: The Fifth Element is a most painfully disappointing film, though it does show the problem--traffic jams in air.


Explain please.


He is in a traffic jam pretty much every scene he is in in his cab.

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Re: The Future is Now

Postby Pyrrho » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:33 am

Humans can barely manage driving cars. I can't imagine what a bunch of yahoos flying "cars" around would be like. Fun times near the airport for sure.

I got a 6-lb sledgehammer here waiting for the first one who crashes into my house.
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Re: The Future is Now

Postby Doctor X » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:51 am

Meanwhile, we ["We?"--Ed.] are trying to move to driverless cars, because we are too easily distracted penguin.

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Re: The Future is Now

Postby Witness » Wed May 03, 2017 1:40 pm

Ditto, flying bike:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMWh4W1C2PM

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