BP Statistical Review of World Energy June 2017

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BP Statistical Review of World Energy June 2017

Post by Anaxagoras » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:03 pm

https://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp/en/co ... report.pdf

Mildly interesting. Total energy use seems to be leveling off. CO2 emissions flat. Coal mining is really starting to decline. Especially in China. You can thank fracking shale gas for that.
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Re: BP Statistical Review of World Energy June 2017

Post by sparks » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:16 pm

Gas: But it's soooo much cleaner than anything else. (Never mind all that methane leaking into the atmosphere, pay noooo attention to that CEO behind the curtain). :)
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Re: BP Statistical Review of World Energy June 2017

Post by Rob Lister » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:28 pm

sparks wrote:Gas: But it's soooo much cleaner than anything else. (Never mind all that methane leaking into the atmosphere, pay noooo attention to that CEO behind the curtain). :)
Meh. Methane is a rather short-lived gas. On the order of months. And any expelled is energy wasted. So it takes care of itself.

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Re: BP Statistical Review of World Energy June 2017

Post by sparks » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:46 pm

So you don't think that the amount of methane that inevitably leaks into the atmosphere around gas wells has any appreciable effect? I've never seen any good evidence on the amount and the effects of same myself, just the usual scare-mongering bullshit. Usually something along the lines of "IT"S wAY W0rserer THAN teh CO2s...!!!!"
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Re: BP Statistical Review of World Energy June 2017

Post by Rob Lister » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:50 pm

sparks wrote:So you don't think that the amount of methane that inevitably leaks into the atmosphere around gas wells has any appreciable effect?
Nope. I believe it to be an non-measurable effect of a very short time. To reiterate: nOPE. Noper. Nine. Zero. Zilch. Nada. I can't think of more ways to say it because I am not an expert in foreign languages or climate science. But should you choose to disagree, I respect that. But consider the fix ...
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view to integrating adaptation into relevant socioeconomic and environmental
policies and actions, where appropriate.
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Re: BP Statistical Review of World Energy June 2017

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:17 pm

Meanwhile, California is on top of making sure poor people have access to clean energy.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/california- ... 96540.html

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Re: BP Statistical Review of World Energy June 2017

Post by Grammatron » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:24 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Meanwhile, California is on top of making sure poor people have access to clean energy.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/california- ... 96540.html

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I don't see why this is unreasonable or funny.

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Re: BP Statistical Review of World Energy June 2017

Post by sparks » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:29 pm

Because POOR PEOPLE cannot have nice cars.
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Re: BP Statistical Review of World Energy June 2017

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:36 pm

sparks wrote:Because POOR PEOPLE cannot have nice cars.
A subset of upper middle class and rich people who are environmentally conscious have electric cars.
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Re: BP Statistical Review of World Energy June 2017

Post by Grammatron » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:49 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
sparks wrote:Because POOR PEOPLE cannot have nice cars.
A subset of upper middle class and rich people who are environmentally conscious have electric cars.
Not in Los Angeles.

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Re: BP Statistical Review of World Energy June 2017

Post by Grammatron » Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:01 pm

In addition to "poor" people in Los Angeles driving electric cars, the city is not static. Areas that are "poor" will not stay that way in the upcoming decades. The ever increasing population combined with high cost of living will push poor people out of Los Angeles all together.

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Re: BP Statistical Review of World Energy June 2017

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:42 pm

Interesting.

See what I get for assuming California is part of the United States? :BigGrin3:
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