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You don't mind if I change your mind?

Post by Witness » Fri May 18, 2018 4:21 pm

Stanford Persuasive Tech Lab wrote:Machines designed to change humans

Yes, this can be a scary topic: machines designed to influence human beliefs and behaviors. But there’s good news. We believe that much like human persuaders, persuasive technologies can bring about positive changes in many domains, including health, business, safety, and education.

We also believe that new advances in technology can help promote world peace in 30 years. With such positive ends in mind, we are creating a body of expertise in the design, theory, and analysis of persuasive technologies, an area called captology.
http://captology.stanford.edu/

If the ends are positive, the means can't be bad, right? :P

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Re: You don't mind if I change your mind?

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri May 18, 2018 4:25 pm

In so far as the "ends" are programmed by people, it's still just people persuading people.

Just add it to the list of speech, preach, screech, books, filmstrips, etc

And I do not see this as being some sort of irresistible Svengali, as seems to be implied.
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Re: You don't mind if I change your mind?

Post by shemp » Fri May 18, 2018 11:41 pm

Why can't they invent a machine to change my diapers? I'll probably need it in a few years.
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Re: You don't mind if I change your mind?

Post by Witness » Sat May 19, 2018 3:04 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:In so far as the "ends" are programmed by people, it's still just people persuading people.
For now…

That being said, I'm always weary of people who think they have an answer for everything.

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Re: You don't mind if I change your mind?

Post by Witness » Sat May 19, 2018 3:06 am

shemp wrote:Why can't they invent a machine to change my diapers? I'll probably need it in a few years.
Please just lay down on the conveyor belt:

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Re: You don't mind if I change your mind?

Post by Grammatron » Sat May 19, 2018 8:53 am

We also believe that new advances in technology can help promote world peace in 30 years.
That's easy if ends justify the means.

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Re: You don't mind if I change your mind?

Post by ed » Sat May 19, 2018 11:52 am

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Witness wrote:
Stanford Persuasive Tech Lab wrote:Machines designed to change humans

Yes, this can be a scary topic: machines designed to influence human beliefs and behaviors. But there’s good news. We believe that much like human persuaders, persuasive technologies can bring about positive changes in many domains, including health, business, safety, and education.

We also believe that new advances in technology can help promote world peace in 30 years. With such positive ends in mind, we are creating a body of expertise in the design, theory, and analysis of persuasive technologies, an area called captology.
http://captology.stanford.edu/

If the ends are positive, the means can't be bad, right? :P
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Re: You don't mind if I change your mind?

Post by Witness » Sat May 19, 2018 10:27 pm

Taking no risks: "can help promote world peace in 30 years". Can. Can help. Can help promote. (Reminds of all the papers cowardly titled "toward(s) <this or that>".)
Perhaps they're targeting business managers and soon poor Pyrrho will have to attend Captology Seminars© and include the Captology Applet© in his webpages? :mrgreen:

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Re: You don't mind if I change your mind?

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat May 19, 2018 11:04 pm

ed: It will be for advertising in general and not primarily politics.
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