Chinese scientist claims first gene-edited human babies

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Chinese scientist claims first gene-edited human babies

Post by Anaxagoras » Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:06 am

The scientist is currently receiving a lot of criticism for this.

There is also some reason to be skeptical of the claim itself, since it was made via YouTube and not though a peer-reviewed scientific journal. Also his own university is claiming that they knew nothing about it. He doesn't have a lot of defenders right now. But I wonder if too much caution would risk holding back progress that could in the future yield some truly amazing achievements for humanity. Is the whole notion of trying to improve humanity by editing our genes something that should forever be taboo?

One of the few voices defending (sort of) the scientist:
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Re: Chinese scientist claims first gene-edited human babies

Post by Rob Lister » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:56 am

Gattaca killed the idea in the modern mind. Dystopia sells more tickets. I saw it as utopian. Vincent Freeman fucked everything up.

So sure! Why leave your kid to chance?

Let's say you do and your kid is born with some nasty genetic disease. I bet you'd use gene therapy to cure him if you could. What's the difference?

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Post by Anaxagoras » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:17 am

Me too. I liked that movie but I thought they overdid the discrimination aspect. That's not how it would play out. In reality it seems the people opposed to it outnumber the people who think it's a good idea.
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Re: Chinese scientist claims first gene-edited human babies

Post by sparks » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:24 am

Because they're ignorant. "You're messing with Gawd's (chaotic and often virulently harmful) plan!!11" Not all the combinations available in the human genome produce a healthy, rational being.

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Re: Chinese scientist claims first gene-edited human babies

Post by ed » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:24 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:
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Me too. I liked that movie but I thought they overdid the discrimination aspect. That's not how it would play out. In reality it seems the people opposed to it outnumber the people who think it's a good idea.
Like (yikes!!) gay marriage?
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Post by sparks » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:43 pm

Small minds are immediately opposed to change, ed.

Because Gawd.
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Post by Doctor X » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:17 pm

People should spend some time reading about inborn errors of metabolism and wonder what can be done about them.

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Re: Chinese scientist claims first gene-edited human babies

Post by ed » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:17 pm

sparks wrote:
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Small minds are immediately opposed to change, ed.

Because Gawd.
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Re: Chinese scientist claims first gene-edited human babies

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:26 pm

So I guess that means an unstoppble army of mutant clones is still out at least for the time being? :evil:
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Re: Chinese scientist claims first gene-edited human babies

Post by Witness » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:09 am

There will be genes for the rich, and genes for the poor… :|

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Re: Chinese scientist claims first gene-edited human babies

Post by sparks » Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:53 am

ed wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:17 pm
sparks wrote:
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Small minds are immediately opposed to change, ed.

Because Gawd.
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Re: Chinese scientist claims first gene-edited human babies

Post by Anaxagoras » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:32 am

Here's some of the harsher criticisms. I sort of agree (not all of them, but some certainly). It seems like by trying to do this alone, in secret, he may have made some mistakes along the way.

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Post by Doctor X » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:49 am

And also for no fucking reason other than to do it and get paid.

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Post by Doctor X » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:23 am

Meanwhile, appears that he has disappeared.

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Re: Chinese scientist claims first gene-edited human babies

Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:06 am

Presumably "detained" by Chinese authorities (although that may be speculation).

A famous Chinese actress also went "missing" recently until it was learned that she was being held by the government for tax evasion. I guess that's how they do things in China.
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Re: Chinese scientist claims first gene-edited human babies

Post by Doctor X » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:27 am

It is just like Obama Did to American Citizens.

Except he did not.

In the rain.

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Re: Chinese scientist claims first gene-edited human babies

Post by Doctor X » Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:24 pm

No, it really is not about you, son.

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