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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby ed » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:44 am

Here you go. A review of a paper on feminist glaciology, really.
Postmodern Glacier professor defends his dreadful study as “misunderstood”. It wasn’t.

Along with three co-authors, Mark Carey, a dean and professor of history at Robert D. Clark Honors college at the University of Oregon, recently published a dreadful postmodernist paper in Progress in Human Geography, “Glaciers, gender and science: A feminist glaciology framework for global environmental change research.” (reference and link below). I wrote about it on this site last week, and have since read the whole thing twice. I still haven’t recovered.

At first I thought, with others, that the paper might be a hoax, but it wasn’t—it’s a real paper, just as opaque and crazy as Alan Sokal’s paper that caused such a furor when published in Social Text in 1996. But Sokal’s paper was an out-and-out hoax, designed to show just how insane the whole postmodern enterprise really was. And it did its job—mostly. But it didn’t eliminate this kind of nonsense in the humanities, because papers like that of Carey et al. are still being written, still being reviewed favorably and published, and still getting funding from the American taxpayers. Carey’s work, including this paper, was funded by a National Science Foundation grant to the tune of nearly $413,000 (see below).


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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:58 pm

So having infiltrated and subverted the humanities out of any meaningful existence as fields of learning, they are targeting those fields with decent paying "real world" jobs.

You knew this would happen.
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby gnome » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:25 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:So having infiltrated and subverted the humanities out of any meaningful existence as fields of learning, they are targeting those fields with decent paying "real world" jobs.

You knew this would happen.


Have they subverted it out of meaningful existence? Or have they just created some headlines easy to crow over?
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:35 pm

gnome wrote:Have they subverted it out of meaningful existence? Or have they just created some headlines easy to crow over?


I would say that the old "well rounded education" (that made a degree in -- for example -- English lit worthwhile to someone headed for a career in business) no longer exists.

There might be a difference of opinion about whether it should exist, but not about whether it does.

If you want that kind of knowledge, get a degree in math or electrical engineering, and spend a lot of time in the college library reading things not required.
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby Mentat » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:48 pm

Progress in Human Geography, the journal that published the paper, is a sociology/geography journal.
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby gnome » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:24 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
gnome wrote:Have they subverted it out of meaningful existence? Or have they just created some headlines easy to crow over?


I would say that the old "well rounded education" (that made a degree in -- for example -- English lit worthwhile to someone headed for a career in business) no longer exists.

There might be a difference of opinion about whether it should exist, but not about whether it does.

If you want that kind of knowledge, get a degree in math or electrical engineering, and spend a lot of time in the college library reading things not required.


I think you're falling victim to a correlation-causation fallacy there. You perceive increased penetration (won't THEY love that word?) of SJW agenda into liberal arts academia as correlating with the decline you describe.

Since I question the extent of that penetration, is it possible that such decline as there is may be happening for completely different reasons?
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:57 pm

gnome:

What is happening is explicitly what they say they are doing.
A mere coincidence with both sides being beguiled into causation fallacy?
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby gnome » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:04 pm

Possibly. Let's say that there was a Buggy Whip Manufacturer's Union (that comprised only actually about 6% of buggy whip makers) that decided they were going to give their corporate masters what-for. "We're on strike! You won't be able to sell coaches without our buggy whips!". The corporate masters say, "We'd be competing fine against those newfangled motorcars if those commie unions weren't on strike". The BWMU says, "Yay, it's working!"

Meanwhile the 94% that doesn't go for that union shit are sitting idle or unemployed because everyone wants motorcars instead.

I'd need a specific claim, though, to evaluate.
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby Skeeve » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:14 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
gnome wrote:Have they subverted it out of meaningful existence? Or have they just created some headlines easy to crow over?


I would say that the old "well rounded education" (that made a degree in -- for example -- English lit worthwhile to someone headed for a career in business) no longer exists.

There might be a difference of opinion about whether it should exist, but not about whether it does.

If you want that kind of knowledge, get a degree in math or electrical engineering, and spend a lot of time in the college library reading things not required.


Funny you should mention that. When I had a Math class there was some English class next door.
You could tell it was an English class, because the first thing they did was move the chairs into a circle...
My professor would occasionallyh comment "they will have a good future in furniture moving..."

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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:21 pm

Advice to would be writers -- Read a lot, write a lot, get opinions of your writing from people who like what you like, and above all DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT THEY TELL YOU IN "CREATIVE WRITING" COURSES.
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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:23 pm

It might be good to have a grammar coach, but you won't get anything like that in college.

Grammar is homophobic. :notsure:
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Postby Mentat » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:55 pm

Skeeve wrote:Funny you should mention that. When I had a Math class there was some English class next door.
You could tell it was an English class, because the first thing they did was move the chairs into a circle...
My professor would occasionallyh comment "they will have a good future in furniture moving..."

Even Writing is a better career choice IMHO, YMMV.


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Postby WildCat » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:37 pm

ed wrote:I really like the word "dreadful". My wife uses it to describe our experience of sitting at a gunshow for a weekend when not one person stops at out table. Le mot juste, so to speak. Anyway, check out the link and be sure to peruse the comments.

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Doctor X wrote:Are those authentic guns?

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Postby Grammatron » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:51 pm

Nice trigger discipline.
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Postby Nyarlathotep » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:56 pm

I always thought Trigger Discipline was just Roy Rogers keeping his horse under control

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Postby Grammatron » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:04 pm

Nyar's references are out of control
pillory wrote:jokes aren't funny....seriously thinking......

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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby Nyarlathotep » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:17 pm

Grammatron wrote:Nyar's references are out of control


If only you knew how many I DON'T make, thinking they would be too obscure.

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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby Grammatron » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:18 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:
Grammatron wrote:Nyar's references are out of control


If only you knew how many I DON'T make, thinking they would be too obscure.


Well maybe you should, everyone who posts here is a huge nerd
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seriously thinking might be funny....but it's not joke


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