Official North Korea Appreciation Thread

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Official North Korea Appreciation Thread

Post by ed » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:24 pm

The place for all things North Korean!!!

First: a link to their news outlet

http://www.rodong.rep.kp/InterEn/

a link to commentary

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Re: Official North Korea Appreciation Thread

Post by ed » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:33 pm

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Re: Official North Korea Appreciation Thread

Post by WildCat » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:55 pm

How Americans live acvcording to North Korea:

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Re: Official North Korea Appreciation Thread

Post by ed » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:55 pm

A NORKIAN POEM
Enchanting Forest (2)
Our bus is running toward the old home of Kim Jong Il in the thick of Mt. Paektu forest.

The bus driver, now quite familiar with us, told us mountain folks living in the neighborhood were eager to see new visitors arriving there every day.

Night was fast falling in the secret camp.

The long spell of snowfall came to a lull, just before the fireworks were to be sent up.

Wind died away and stillness reigns all over.

Like the night seven decades ago, light flows out of the old house of General Kim Jong Il and the nearby stream of Sobaeksu runs down rippling quietly.

High in the air inscriptions of Jong Il Peak are seen as bright as in the daytime.

Fireworks go up at last, fireworks of various hues and shapes decorating the night sky. The dense forest is bright. An announcer recites a poem in a very excited tone.

There was a display of fireworks every year, but this year new features are added, musical arrangement to accompany the fireworks display and new shapes of firecracker.

The night in the forest is indeed a real wonder.

A festival of ice sculpture is going on here, a real attraction in the thickness of this primeval forest.

Entering the well-known Ryongmun Cavern, also an ice carving, people are simply intoxicated by the queerness of the icy world. People can see many beautiful cultural valuables including a tortoise ship, the world first ironclad warship made in Korea. Many monumental structures erected in the capital can find their miniatures in ice. In the table land of Sepho we can picture ourselves standing in a vast expanse of pasture and enjoying the cattle grazing leisurely.

There is also a display of ice sculpture in the township of Samjiyon.

We see a new culture of the 21 C now in the making in this forest area. Yes, it is a new field of culture of the Kim Il Sung's nation, and the Day of the Shining Star adds brilliance to the creation of new culture all over this country.

Thrilling scenes of skiing at the Pyegae Peak skiing tracks, splendid fireworks above the sky of the Mt. Paektu secret camp and ice-sculpture festivals in the secret camp and the local county seat: all these fascinating things we see here make up a new culture being created in Korea, country of powerful nation of Mt. Paektu.

Our people love the forest of Mt. Paektu. Why do they have so much attraction for this forest, an almost no man's forest with howling snowstorms and long and long night.

It is because here is the old home of General Kim Jong Il whom they love and miss so much.

The colorful events that took place in the forest in February this year are a vivid illustration of our people’s eternal love for the General.

We took aboard the plane leaving for Pyongyang, carrying with us so many unforgettable recollections.

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Re: Official North Korea Appreciation Thread

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Re: Official North Korea Appreciation Thread

Post by ed » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:27 pm

Time for some motivation!

Let us fight and create as befits the descendants of the great
Comrade Kim Il Sung and the soldiers and followers of the great
Comrade Kim Jong Il!
Let us exalt the dignity of the great Kim Il Sung's country,
General Kim Jong Il's country, following the leadership of
Comrade Kim Jong Un!
Let us do everything the way the great Comrade Kim Jong Il did!
Let us carry on the march started from Mt. Paektu stoutly
under the guidance of the dear respected Comrade Kim Jong Un!
Make the world admire the great Kim Il Sung's nation, Kim Jong Il's Korea!
All out for a general offensive to achieve the prosperity of the
great Kim Il Sung's nation, Kim Jong Il's Korea!
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Re: Official North Korea Appreciation Thread

Post by ed » Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:52 pm

Interesting piece on the Norks and their future.
OBERLIN, Ohio

ON Monday, North Korea declared that it had nullified the 1953 armistice that ended the Korean War, a new level of bellicosity that raised, at least on paper, the potential for the resumption of armed conflict on the peninsula.

The fiery rhetoric seemed to foreign observers a desperate attempt to force the United States and South Korea to restart stalled talks on denuclearization, in the hope of extracting aid and concessions. But recent history suggests that it was motivated less by international politics than by domestic concerns: North Korea’s new hereditary leader, Kim Jong-un, may have been stoking fears of a foreign threat primarily to dampen political unrest at home.

The belligerent talk, and the nuclear test North Korea conducted last month, its third, are part of a pattern that began in the 1990s when the North Korean economy collapsed following the end of the cold war.

Faced with chronic famine and international isolation, North Koreans have become acutely worried about their increasing dependence on China.

The Beijing government’s diplomatic and financial support has been essential to North Korea for decades, of course. But China’s influence in the country began to take on a new dimension in 2002, when it started an ambitious Northeast Asia Project. Ostensibly aimed at better integrating its three northeastern provinces — Heilongjiang, Jilin and Liaoning — with the rest of the country, it quickly became clear that the project also aimed to rewrite Korean history.

At issue was the history of Koguryo (Gaogouli in Chinese), one of the three ancient kingdoms of Korea (along with Paekche and Silla) in the third through seventh centuries. Chinese scholars claimed that, because part of the former territory of Koguryo now resides within China’s borders, its history ought to be considered Chinese, not Korean.

The political ramifications of this seemingly abstruse dispute have been far-reaching. South Korea charged that the Chinese government, by claiming Koguryo as part of its ancient past, was trying to undermine the legitimacy and political authority of North Korea.

The timing of China’s apparently sudden interest in Koguryo’s history is notable. It began in earnest in 2009, when the Chinese government announced an ambitious economic development program for North Korea. This project, covering the Chinese cities of Changchun, Jilin and Tumen, involved a vast area landlocked by Russia. North Korea agreed to lease the seaport at Rajin, a gateway to the Pacific, as well as sign on to various economic development projects.

By 2011, total Chinese investment in North Korea exceeded $6 billion. China, in fact, now provides an estimated 90 percent of North Korea’s energy, 80 percent of its consumer goods, and 45 percent of the country’s food.

As North Korea moves ever closer to becoming the “fourth province” of northeastern China, a pressing question Mr. Kim faces is how to sell this to his people, especially the elite. While many in the West assume that public opinion simply doesn’t matter in North Korea’s totalitarian state, the dictatorship could not have carried on as long as it has — nearly 70 years — without public support, continually manipulated though it is.

In the past, this support derived from the belief by North Koreans that the North — unlike the South, which is considered a “lackey” of the United States — was the only legitimate Korea because it abided by a core nationalist ideology of chuch’e, or self-determination.

That public conviction in North Korea’s self-reliance has become increasingly tenuous as the country’s poverty has deepened — and as the propaganda the North Korean masses (and even the ranks of the elite) hear becomes all the more distant from the reality of their lives. And that is what has the Pyongyang regime scared.

As Mr. Kim, who came to power at the end of 2011, tries to consolidate his authority, he has the added challenge of convincing North Koreans that the chuch’e principle stands firm even against the “friendly” encroachments of China.

China appears to understand Pyongyang’s dilemma, which is why it has continued its ambitious efforts to develop North Korea while shielding the new regime from internal collapse.

Stability on the Korean Peninsula is critical to China’s own security, too. North Korea provides China with a buffer between it and the roughly 29,000 American troops stationed in South Korea. While Beijing’s patience with North Korea was sorely tested after the nuclear test last month, and China has nominally agreed to economic sanctions, it has too much at stake in Mr. Kim’s government to halt or withdraw its support entirely.

South Korea remains deeply suspicious of China, but having cut off all aid to North Korea after it sank a South Korean vessel in 2010, the government in Seoul surrendered any economic leverage over the North it might have had. Although it remains to be seen what policy South Korea’s new president, Park Geun-hye, will take toward the North, few South Koreans harbor any illusions about the dire state of the North’s economy or the tremendous costs unification would entail.

In the 1990s, more than 80 percent of South Koreans believed that unification was essential; by 2011, that number had dropped to 56 percent. Today, just one in five South Korean teenagers believe unification is imperative — a fraction of those who believed this in their parents’ and grandparents’ generations.

North Korea’s apocalyptic threats may only make South Koreans — and their American allies — even more doubtful that a peaceful end to this long conflict is near. But it would be a mistake to read into them anything more than the noises of a dying regime that clearly recognizes the writing on the wall.


Sheila Miyoshi Jager, an associate professor of East Asian studies at Oberlin College, is the author of the forthcoming book “Brothers at War: The Unending Conflict in Korea.”
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Re: Official North Korea Appreciation Thread

Post by Grammatron » Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:13 pm

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Grammatron wrote:ed, please stop posting articles in full.

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Re: Official North Korea Appreciation Thread

Post by ed » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:05 pm

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Post by Rob Lister » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:47 pm

There do not exist any dialogue channel and communications means between the DPRK and the U.S. and between the north and the south.
If Trey Parker and Matt Stone set out to do a parody of Dark Korea for a South Park episode, would the script look any different than what already originates there? Does Poe's Law apply?

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Post by Badger » Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:51 pm

Nice article, Ed. Thanks!

It doesn't address the tensions between factions within North Korea, which would add some nuance. There is worry from China that destabilization, internally, of DPRK would result in a huge influx of refugees into the northern chinese provinces.

So, I wonder if they are indeed the "noises of a dying regime" or a different faction has more sway than previously.
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Post by Anaxagoras » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:48 am

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/ ... 3R20130329
(Reuters) - North Korea put its rocket units on standby on Friday to attack U.S. military bases in South Korea and the Pacific, after the United States flew two nuclear-capable stealth bombers over the Korean peninsula in a rare show of force.

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un signed off on the order at a midnight meeting of top generals and "judged the time has come to settle accounts with the U.S. imperialists in view of the prevailing situation", official KCNA news agency said.


On Thursday, the United States flew two radar-evading B-2 Spirit bombers on practice runs over South Korea, responding to a series of North Korean threats. They flew from the United States and back in what appeared to be the first exercise of its kind, designed to show America's ability to conduct long-range, precision strikes "quickly and at will", the U.S. military said.

The news of Kim's response was unusually swift.

"He finally signed the plan on technical preparations of strategic rockets of the KPA (Korean People's Army), ordering them to be on standby for fire so that they may strike any time the U.S. mainland, its military bases in the operational theaters in the Pacific, including Hawaii and Guam, and those in South Korea," KCNA said.

The North has an arsenal of Soviet-era Scud missiles that can hit South Korea, but its longer-range missiles are untested. Independent assessments of its missile capability suggest it may have theoretical capacity to hit U.S. bases in Japan and Guam.
Probably more empty threats, but he's a young, untested man and there is a possibility that he believes his own propaganda to some extent. Seems like the possibility of his starting an all-out war is greater than zero.
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Post by DrMatt » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:37 am

I could see the younger trying to one-up the older with a bigger war on a flimsier pretext.
In fact, I have seen it.
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Re: Official North Korea Appreciation Thread

Post by gnome » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:26 pm

Perhaps it is gallows humor, but the increasing levels of "ok! You're really going to get it now!" strike my funny bone. Maybe his military engineers can invent a dramatic cocking sound for his launchers. And then another cocking sound for readying the cocking, to show he really means business.
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Post by DrMatt » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:30 pm

Right, then he'll show off North Korea's Large Hardon Collider.
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Post by Bruce » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:03 am

I can't wait to blame the upcoming war on Dennis Rodman's failed diplomacy tactics. :D
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Post by Rob Lister » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:55 am

gnome wrote:Maybe his military engineers can invent a dramatic cocking sound for his launchers. And then another cocking sound for readying the cocking, to show he really means business.
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