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Re: Cecil the Lion

Post by Nyarlathotep » Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:52 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:That's from a museum diorama, right?
The Saavo Lions. Fairly inteteredting incident, though I am not sure I spelled it right.

They even made a movie about it with Val Kilmer, but the name of the movie escapes me at the moment
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Re: Cecil the Lion

Post by corplinx » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:07 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:In Zimbabwe, We Don’t Cry for Lions
The New York Times

Op ed piece.
Winston-Salem, N.C. — MY mind was absorbed by the biochemistry of gene editing when the text messages and Facebook posts distracted me.

So sorry about Cecil.

Did Cecil live near your place in Zimbabwe?

Cecil who? I wondered. When I turned on the news and discovered that the messages were about a lion killed by an American dentist, the village boy inside me instinctively cheered: One lion fewer to menace families like mine.

My excitement was doused when I realized that the lion killer was being painted as the villain. I faced the starkest cultural contradiction I’d experienced during my five years studying in the United States.

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Cecil the lion. Evil like his namesake. 8)

I read that piece this morning. The real stinger was "We Zimbabweans are left shaking our heads, wondering why Americans care more about African animals than about African people."

Caring about Cecil the Lion #justwhitefolksthings

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Re: Cecil the Lion

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:10 pm

corplinx wrote: ...

Caring about Cecil the Lion #justwhitefolksthings
#NotAllWhiteFolksJustNinnies :P
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Re: Cecil the Lion

Post by Rob Lister » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:42 pm

corplinx wrote:The real stinger was "We Zimbabweans are left shaking our heads, wondering why Americans care more about African animals than about African people."
When there are only a dozen or so Zimbabweans left, we'll care plenty.

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Re: Cecil the Lion

Post by Doctor X » Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:10 pm

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corplinx wrote:The real stinger was "We Zimbabweans are left shaking our heads, wondering why Americans care more about African animals than about African people."
When there are only a dozen or so Zimbabweans left, and they make a Japanese Original anime about them which Disney will rip-off with soundtrack your spawn will sing in a continuous loop until you start writing "Red Rum" in a journal and hope no one opens the freezer in the basement and your wife pesters you about baseboards not matching the Formica and My Mom is demanding her corns be filed THESE AREN'T MY CRAYONS then we'll care plenty.
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Re: Cecil the Lion

Post by Grammatron » Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:26 pm

corplinx wrote: I read that piece this morning. The real stinger was "We Zimbabweans are left shaking our heads, wondering why Americans care more about African animals than about African people."

Caring about Cecil the Lion #justwhitefolksthings
We Americans are left shaking our hands, wondering why Zimbabweans care more about catching a Lion murdered than a tyrant who is murdering their country.

Keeping Mugabe in power #justafricanthings

PS: American = white?

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Re: Cecil the Lion

Post by Rob Lister » Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:30 pm

Grammatron wrote:

PS: American = white?
Realtm 'Merican = white.

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Re: Cecil the Lion

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Re: Cecil the Lion

Post by Rob Lister » Wed Aug 05, 2015 10:17 pm

Minnesota dentist Walter Palmer may regret killing Cecil the Lion during an apparently illegal hunt in Zimbabwe, but at least one person is relieved there's one less lion on the prowl. Goodwell Nzou, a Zimbabwe native studying in the US, says he had no idea who Cecil was when friends began texting him their condolences after the animal's death. When he realized they were referring to a lion, "the village boy inside me instinctively cheered: One lion fewer to menace families like mine," he writes at the New York Times. Jimmy Kimmel and others may have thought they were condemning the killing of a "local favorite," Nzou writes, but "in my village in Zimbabwe, surrounded by wildlife conservation areas, no lion has ever been beloved, or granted an affectionate nickname. They are objects of terror."

Nzou remembers a lion stalking the area around his home when he was a child. His father and brothers took his mom to collect firewood "armed with machetes, axes and spears," he says. No one played or socialized outside. "When the lion was finally killed, no one cared whether its murderer was a local person or a white trophy hunter, whether it was poached or killed legally. We danced and sang about the vanquishing of the fearsome beast." While many wild animals hold "near-mystical significance" to Zimbabweans, "our respect for these animals has never kept us from hunting them or allowing them to be hunted," Nzou says. The outrage over Cecil's death—though no fuss was made when a baby elephant was reportedly killed for Zimbabwe's president's birthday dinner—shows "Americans care more about African animals than about African people." Read Nzou's full column.
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Re: Cecil the Lion

Post by WildCat » Wed Aug 05, 2015 10:27 pm

In 1963 Ruger ran this ad and nobody protested: http://s860.photobucket.com/user/RAC196 ... 3.jpg.html

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Post by Doctor X » Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:13 am

Did Goodwill live on a protected nature preserve?

Maybe his family should have moved.

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Re: Cecil the Lion

Post by corplinx » Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:35 am

Delta banning trophies from flights. Do we have a full on moral panic now?

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Re: Cecil the Lion

Post by WildCat » Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:24 am

corplinx wrote:Delta banning trophies from flights. Do we have a full on moral panic now?
Not that Delta flies to any country in Africa, corporate slacktivism at its most cynical.
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Re: Cecil the Lion

Post by Witness » Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:35 am

WildCat wrote:
corplinx wrote:Delta banning trophies from flights. Do we have a full on moral panic now?
Not that Delta flies to any country in Africa, corporate slacktivism at its most cynical.
Well, there isen't only Africa…

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Re: Cecil the Lion

Post by sparks » Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:45 am

An endangered species.




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When there are 3 dentists/3 Zimbabweans left............... indeed.
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Re: Cecil the Lion

Post by Doctor X » Thu Aug 06, 2015 4:22 am

Add a rabbi and you have a joke. . . .

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Re: Cecil the Lion

Post by Doctor X » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:26 am

Duffleblog:
I Will Always Remember Where I Was When Cecil The Lion Was Killed

I remember exactly what I was doing when I heard what had happened.

It started off as a normal day for my town, with the Syrian Air Force dropping barrel bombs on several neighborhoods and a local school. As I dug the bodies of several women out of the rubble, one of the other rescue workers asked if I’d heard that Cecil the Lion was killed.

I froze in shock, dropping part of what I assume was once a human arm on the ground. “Not Cecil the Lion!” I exclaimed. “Not him! Truly, is there no innocence left in this world?” I cried harder than when we discovered my brother was gay and ISIS forced us to throw him off a building.

. . .

The hardest part was explaining to my eldest son why Cecil was killed. He asked if Cecil was a Kurd or a Christian, and I said no, sometimes people and animals are killed for totally unjustifiable reasons.
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Abu-Sayid also announced that Boko Haram would slaughter 100 American dentists to raise awareness of the killing, though the group said it would settle for killing at least 100 of anything else that is alive within a five-mile radius.
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Re: Cecil the Lion

Post by hammegk » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:18 pm

Rob Lister wrote:
corplinx wrote:The real stinger was "We Zimbabweans are left shaking our heads, wondering why Americans care more about African animals than about African people."
When there are only a dozen or so Zimbabweans left, we'll care plenty.
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Re: Cecil the Lion

Post by Tiosylanyl » Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:45 pm

....Aaaaaand for your daily dose of stupid, this has been floating around the Facebooks as evidences that it is humanity's fault for making Cecil a hunter.

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