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Re: Islamist Shoots up Gay Night Club in Orlando

Post by WildCat » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:54 pm

I just heard there was a mass shooting in Germany in a theater.
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Post by Doctor X » Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:13 pm

Just reporting on the BBC as "one shot" and twenty injured--apparently by tear gas. Details still coming in. Thought of starting a topic but there are currently no more details.

*Refresh*

This is what there is:
The man had fired at least one shot at the Kinopolis complex in Viernheim, near Frankfurt.

At least 20 people are said have been injured - many apparently as the result of a release of tear gas in a confined space.

It is unclear how the man died, or if he had taken any hostages.

Heavily armed police surrounded the complex after the incident began around lunchtime.
ah . . . what? But that is what you get with "Breaking News" feeds.

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Post by Ben Trovado » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:15 pm

When, oh when will people stand up and ban bicycles? Or at least assault bicycles?

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Re: Islamist Shoots up Gay Night Club in Orlando

Post by corplinx » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:19 pm

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/os-orl ... story.html
Federal officials: No evidence gunman used gay apps, looked at gay porn, had boyfriends
I guess since he wasn't a white teabagger, the media had to run with the toxic masculinity/gay shame narrative.

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Post by Grammatron » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:27 pm

corplinx wrote:http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/os-orl ... story.html
Federal officials: No evidence gunman used gay apps, looked at gay porn, had boyfriends
I guess since he wasn't a white teabagger, the media had to run with the toxic masculinity/gay shame narrative.

Beam me up Mr. Speaker.
Interesting, last week I heard a theory that he was absolutely not a closeted dude but exhibited classic examples of someone looking for a soft target. Furthermore, if you actually listened to what this asshole was saying, he was upset about his country (Afghanistan) being bombed. This is a person born and raise in USA who never set foot in Afghanistan. Basically, great parenting.

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Post by corplinx » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:30 pm

I fell for it. Many people fell for it.

What does that say about our prejudice towards closeted gays or gays struggling with denial? I mean that in the real definition of prejudiced. We have mentally prejudged this person in some way (not necessarily as racial inferiors or the like). I had no problem accepting that his violence was part of an expression due to some inherent conflict with his sexuality.

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Re: Islamist Shoots up Gay Night Club in Orlando

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:12 am

The shooter-was-gay angle does not negate the Jihad angle.

Being a Holy Martyr pays for all.

We've seen hetero versions of this often.
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Re: Islamist Shoots up Gay Night Club in Orlando

Post by Rob Lister » Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:15 am

There is no reason why it can't be both, or all three, or whatever. This may have been a personal jihad but it wasn't something planned from afar.

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Post by ed » Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:21 am

If personal jihad was called for from afar and someone carries it out then wasn't it planned?
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Post by Rob Lister » Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:26 am

A question so parsed cannot be answered.

But if you want to go out and start pounding arabs, I'm jiggy.

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Post by ed » Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:33 am

I am a master of the overparsed question. It is a gift.

"Jiggy" sounds suspiciously racist to me.
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Post by Rob Lister » Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:36 am

I learned it from the fresh prince of bel air.

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Post by Doctor X » Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:45 am

corplinx wrote:I had no problem accepting that his violence was part of an expression due to some inherent conflict with his sexuality.
We are only as good as the data we have.

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Post by Pyrrho » Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:12 am

I try not to believe anything in the news for a few weeks after one of these events.
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Post by Doctor X » Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:29 am

Indeed.

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Post by Anaxagoras » Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:21 am

Doctor X wrote:
corplinx wrote:I had no problem accepting that his violence was part of an expression due to some inherent conflict with his sexuality.
We are only as good as the data we have.

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Personally I never really put much stock in the theory, if there was one, that he was gay. Who was selling that anyway?

All of the things they were pointing to could have just been part of his plan. They say he had been in the club before. Sure, but that was probably part of his plan. He was casing the place, and making himself a familiar face, so he would not draw any attention when he came to carry out his plan. Beyond that I didn't really pay much attention to those stories.
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Re: Islamist Shoots up Gay Night Club in Orlando

Post by ed » Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:50 pm

The gay thing seemed too pat to me. Like it was somehow more acceptable for a tormented gay guy to murder 50 people than it was a person with terrorist leanings. We can see where homos fall on the SJW hierarchy. Interestingly, this has driven a lot of gays to the swirling world of firearms.
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Re: Islamist Shoots up Gay Night Club in Orlando

Post by corplinx » Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:31 pm

Well, there was a man claiming to have slept with him. People claiming they had seen him on grindr. People at the bar saying he had been coming months. So there was a shitstorm of untrue things that pointed to the same conclusion.

The Fog of Shit was in effect, but the "self hating queer whose Islam conflicted with who he was" did make sense.