The Post Brexit Fallout Thread

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Re: The Post Brexit Fallout Thread

Post by Doctor X » Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:33 am

Boris is back as Foreign Minister!

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Re: The Post Brexit Fallout Thread

Post by Anaxagoras » Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:57 am

Poor. Boris. His plan thwarted.
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Re: The Post Brexit Fallout Thread

Post by Doctor X » Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:10 am

Not . . . necessarily. Foreign Minister is a high-profile position that he could, and probably will, try to use to become a future leader. That, of course, depends on him not completely cocking up everything and getting sacked, but "diplomatic" is not a description that I am aware of applying to him. Could be wrong--I mainly get the "outrageous" statements and the like.

Though sometimes he has been too kind:
Boris Johnson's portfolio of previous remarks - with his penchant for a colourful phrase - is likely to raise the occasional eyebrow overseas. In 2007, for instance, he described Hillary Clinton, who could be US president in a matter of months, as being "like a sadistic nurse in a mental hospital".

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Re: The Post Brexit Fallout Thread

Post by Anaxagoras » Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:22 am

Well, of course I don't know exactly what he might have been thinking but if he wanted to be party leader why didn't he run this time? Because he can see that Brexit is going to be a disaster and so he didn't want "ownership" over it. He wanted someone else to take the blame for whatever terrible deal they are able to negotiate. But now he himself is going to have at least partial ownership of the deal. If he can't negotiate terms that make everyone happy, and don't cause a recession, then as first-mate rather than captain, he still shares in the blame. If things go well on the other hand, and most people end up happy with the result, the PM would still be the primary beneficiary of that.
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Re: The Post Brexit Fallout Thread

Post by Doctor X » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:21 am

Anaxagoras wrote:Well, of course I don't know exactly what he might have been thinking but if he wanted to be party leader why didn't he run this time? Because he can see that Brexit is going to be a disaster and so he didn't want "ownership" over it.
Possible, but he got "Francis Urquarted" by a major supporter. He also did not have sufficient support to win I suspect. He probably would have had far more than WhatsherFaceAgain and could have pushed to an actual party election to be held over the next few weeks . . . but I think his negatives were too high. I do not think he would have won but who knows?

He may very well think he can deny "ownership," but in reality he cannot as your post suggests. At best he can bitch and snipe about how it is done but . . . wait . . . he is the Foreign Minister! Sure, he can blame those officially tasked with sorting out the mess he helped create, but he will not avoid it. They can, and probably will, blame him back. This assumes he has not figured out that May is at best a "finish the term then serve one more" PM. If he plays well and acts more like a statesman--like she did--he could be her successor assuming everyone is not sick of the Tories and votes Monster Raving Looney.

Now the only question is when he is made "Sir" or even "Lord." Probably rather soon given his success, the Tories in power, and the fact that one of his predecessors was made Lord rather quickly.

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Re: The Post Brexit Fallout Thread

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Re: The Post Brexit Fallout Thread

Post by asthmatic camel » Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:42 pm

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Meanwhile, Sterling continues to tank magnificently.

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Re: The Post Brexit Fallout Thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:46 pm

George Soros should be happy. :BigGrin3:
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Post by asthmatic camel » Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:47 pm

I certainly am; played it just right. :)
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Re: The Post Brexit Fallout Thread

Post by asthmatic camel » Sat Jul 23, 2016 12:06 am

I won't be investing in Britain for a while...
Britain's decision to leave the EU has led to a "dramatic deterioration" in economic activity, not seen since the aftermath of the financial crisis.

Data from IHS Markit's Purchasing Managers' Index, or PMI, shows a fall to 47.7 in July, the lowest level since April in 2009. A reading below 50 indicates contraction.

Both manufacturing and service sectors saw a decline in output and orders.

However, exports picked up, driven by the weakening of the pound.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Jul 23, 2016 12:14 am

Does Scotland still have oil?

Maybe the UK could join OPEC. 8)
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Post by asthmatic camel » Sat Jul 23, 2016 12:34 am

Scotland does still have oil but all the easy to get at stuff has gone. It's hardly worth drilling new deep sea wells now the price has collapsed.
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Post by Doctor X » Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:22 am

Yeah, with all the bluster they really cannot be economically independent.

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Re: The Post Brexit Fallout Thread

Post by asthmatic camel » Sat Jul 23, 2016 4:38 am

True that, Doc. They'd be screwed now without the significantly increased per capita funding they recieve under the Barnett Formula, as would Wales. Northern Ireland could possibly be better off if it chose to become united with its EU neighbour Eire and leave the union, (and nobody in England would miss it.)
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Re: The Post Brexit Fallout Thread

Post by Doctor X » Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:50 am

Northern Ireland will not join until Eire rids itself of its meddlesome priests.

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Post by asthmatic camel » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:00 am

From what I hear, it's doing that pretty damned quickly.
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Re: The Post Brexit Fallout Thread

Post by Doctor X » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:21 am

Given the abortion is basically still nearly completely illegal there still, they have much, much farther to go.

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Re: The Post Brexit Fallout Thread

Post by Witness » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:53 am

The Picts are again at it:
BBC wrote:New Scottish independence bill published

The move does not mean another referendum will definitely be held.

But First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said Scotland should be ready to hold a vote before the UK leaves the EU if it is felt necessary to protect Scottish interests.
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Re: The Post Brexit Fallout Thread

Post by Doctor X » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:19 am

And you will pay for it and everything else how, Nicola?

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