The SJW war on us thread

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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Post by gnome » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:12 pm

Maybe I just don't fit into that "planet X" box you want to put me in. Why not a "Y"? Is this saying something about X chromosomes?
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Post by ed » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:12 pm

gnome wrote:It's not a toggle switch, more of a spectrum. But lots of societies like to pretend they're higher on the meritocracy scale than they are, the better to demonize people falling through the cracks, instead of working on the problem.
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Post by gnome » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:13 pm

ed wrote:
gnome wrote:It's not a toggle switch, more of a spectrum. But lots of societies like to pretend they're higher on the meritocracy scale than they are, the better to demonize people falling through the cracks, instead of working on the problem.
Abilities are analog, rewards are digital

ie. you don;t get 90% of a promotion so you can "feel good"
I have very little concern for how people feel. Not none, but this is not my primary concern here. I am referring to people asking for help, and not receiving it because they are told it's their own fault that they need help.
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Post by gnome » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:14 pm

Grammatron wrote:
gnome wrote:I don't dispute any of that. The sense in which I object is when a real issue is dismissed as unimportant with the justification that people suffering from it deserve to be in it.

I don't mind being aware that personal choice and responsibility is involved, I just don't want themto use that as a reason to ignore a problem. How that plays out semantically doesn't matter to me.
This is way too general, can you give a specific example of who is doing this, who are "them"?
You've never heard someone argue that poor people shouldn't get public assistance because it's their fault they're poor?
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Post by ed » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:15 pm

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People who really worry about, and consider this sort of stuff will fail. Or, alternatively, grow up.
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Post by sparks » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:25 pm

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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Post by Grammatron » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:52 pm

gnome wrote:
Grammatron wrote:
gnome wrote:I don't dispute any of that. The sense in which I object is when a real issue is dismissed as unimportant with the justification that people suffering from it deserve to be in it.

I don't mind being aware that personal choice and responsibility is involved, I just don't want themto use that as a reason to ignore a problem. How that plays out semantically doesn't matter to me.
This is way too general, can you give a specific example of who is doing this, who are "them"?
You've never heard someone argue that poor people shouldn't get public assistance because it's their fault they're poor?
You yourself have said that you don't want to give ownership of labels and terms to the fringes, why then do you listen to the fringes and then labeling them as belonging to certain sides?

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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Post by ed » Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:30 pm

gnome wrote:
ed wrote:
gnome wrote:It's not a toggle switch, more of a spectrum. But lots of societies like to pretend they're higher on the meritocracy scale than they are, the better to demonize people falling through the cracks, instead of working on the problem.
Abilities are analog, rewards are digital

ie. you don;t get 90% of a promotion so you can "feel good"
I have very little concern for how people feel. Not none, but this is not my primary concern here. I am referring to people asking for help, and not receiving it because they are told it's their own fault that they need help.
I am not sure that there should be a test for those needing help. I mean, a fucked up vet "did it to himself" because he volunteered, no? Everyone is "culpable" to some extent.

I resent people demanding an outcome that they simply do not merit.
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Post by Pyrrho » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:19 pm

Fixed it again.

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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:31 pm

Y'all know that chart was always a "joke" and never intended as a real guide, right? :)
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Post by sparks » Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:20 pm

Thank the FSM. Can't keep track of all that.
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Post by gnome » Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:43 pm

Grammatron wrote:
gnome wrote:
Grammatron wrote:
gnome wrote:I don't dispute any of that. The sense in which I object is when a real issue is dismissed as unimportant with the justification that people suffering from it deserve to be in it.

I don't mind being aware that personal choice and responsibility is involved, I just don't want themto use that as a reason to ignore a problem. How that plays out semantically doesn't matter to me.
This is way too general, can you give a specific example of who is doing this, who are "them"?
You've never heard someone argue that poor people shouldn't get public assistance because it's their fault they're poor?
You yourself have said that you don't want to give ownership of labels and terms to the fringes, why then do you listen to the fringes and then labeling them as belonging to certain sides?
I'm not trying to label someone. I've heard an idea frequently that I'm speaking against.
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Post by Giz » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:51 pm

"French waiter says firing for rudeness is 'discrimination against my culture'"

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Post by Skeeve » Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:46 pm

Meanwhile, on the other side of the pond...
Universities should not be safe spaces, say MPs
MPs and peers have told universities that they cannot be “safe spaces” but must allow unpopular and controversial views to be heard on campuses.
Safe space policies are often an expression of intolerance of groups that proffer legal opinions ranging from the pro-life lobby to humanists, MPs said.

The findings by the parliamentary joint committee on human rights will add to pressure on universities to take action against students who try to prevent certain figures from speaking.

The committee, which is chaired by Harriet Harman, the former deputy leader of the Labour Party, heard evidence from students, university authorities and others over several weeks.
Changing times, or political theater?
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Post by Skeeve » Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:38 am

#MeToo meets 120dB! (short video)



Looks like they don't like it (folks getting up on stage and interupting) either...go figure.
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Post by Witness » Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:50 am

BAC News wrote:Baby Storm Raised Genderless Is Bad Experiment, Say Experts

No one knows the sex of Storm Stocker, a 4-month-old baby from Toronto. Only the parents, midwives and two older brothers have ever peeked beneath the diaper.

That's because his -- or is it her -- parents, Kathy Witterick, 38, and David Stocker, 39, want to raise their child genderless.

When Storm came into the world in a birthing pool on New Year's Day, they sent out this email: "We decided not to share Storm's sex for now -- a tribute to freedom and choice in place of limitation, a standup to what the world could become in Storm's lifetime."
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The family gleaned the idea for this form of child-rearing from the 1978 children's book "X: A Fabulous Child's Story," by Lois Gould. The author uses symbolism and allegory to explore gender "creativity."

Stocker teaches at an alternative junior high school and said he plans his lessons around social justice issues. Witterick practices unschooling, which is similar to homeschooling, with no report cards, no textbooks and no tests.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/baby-storm ... d=13693760

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:40 pm

Child abuse.

The children should be taken away and the parents sent to prison.
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Post by WildCat » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:22 pm

corplinx wrote:I'm getting really worried with the censorship in the US. (queue the, its not censorship when youtube/twitter no-platform you).
It absolutely is censorship. It's just not a 1st Amendment issue.
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