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Re: The Schadenfreude Thread

Post by WildCat » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:51 pm

And the point is there is nothing in anything Mueller has done that indicates he is a Republican. He hasn't been active in any GOP campaigns, or been involved in GOP fundraising activity. He's not writing op-eds pimping GOP candidates or GOP policies. Al he did was vote in a GOP primary 18 years ago and got appointed by Bush to a position that until Obama was a decidedly non-political position.

If you go by recent actions he's either a partisan dem or a "never Trump" Republican, who packed his team with Democratic Party donors and those who openly supported Hillary. His #2 attended Hillary's election night party.
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Re: The Schadenfreude Thread

Post by Grammatron » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:15 pm

WildCat wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:51 pm
And the point is there is nothing in anything Mueller has done that indicates he is a Republican.
Except registering as a member of the Republican party.
He hasn't been active in any GOP campaigns, or been involved in GOP fundraising activity. He's not writing op-eds pimping GOP candidates or GOP policies. Al he did was vote in a GOP primary 18 years ago and got appointed by Bush to a position that until Obama was a decidedly non-political position.

If you go by recent actions he's either a partisan dem or a "never Trump" Republican, who packed his team with Democratic Party donors and those who openly supported Hillary. His #2 attended Hillary's election night party.
Trump was a Democrat and openly supported the Clintons.

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Re: The Schadenfreude Thread

Post by Skeeve » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:29 pm

WildCat wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:51 pm
And the point is there is nothing in anything Mueller has done that indicates he is a Republican. He hasn't been active in any GOP campaigns, or been involved in GOP fundraising activity. He's not writing op-eds pimping GOP candidates or GOP policies. Al he did was vote in a GOP primary 18 years ago and got appointed by Bush to a position that until Obama was a decidedly non-political position.

If you go by recent actions he's either a partisan dem or a "never Trump" Republican, who packed his team with Democratic Party donors and those who openly supported Hillary. His #2 attended Hillary's election night party.
"never Trump" Republican

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Re: The Schadenfreude Thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:45 pm

By the sort of reasoning that makes Mueller a Republican, Trump is a Democrat.

And wasn't Hillary a "Goldwater Girl" in college?
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Re: The Schadenfreude Thread

Post by WildCat » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:22 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:45 pm
By the sort of reasoning that makes Mueller a Republican, Trump is a Democrat.

And wasn't Hillary a "Goldwater Girl" in college?
Yes, Trump is Democrat and Hillary is a Republican.
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Re: The Schadenfreude Thread

Post by Witness » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:24 am

Good, we need more confusion.

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Re: The Schadenfreude Thread

Post by Doctor X » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:38 am

Has he registered as anything else?

See references to goal posts and men in skirts above.

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Re: The Schadenfreude Thread

Post by Doctor X » Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:40 am

Meanwhile, About Those E-mails:
At the time, many wondered how investigators managed over the course of one week to read the “hundreds of thousands” of emails residing on the machine, which had been a focus of a sex-crimes investigation of Weiner, a former Congressman.

Comey later told Congress that “thanks to the wizardry of our technology,” the FBI was able to eliminate the vast majority of messages as “duplicates” of emails they’d previously seen. Tireless agents, he claimed, then worked “night after night after night” to scrutinize the remaining material.

But virtually none of his account was true, a growing body of evidence reveals.

In fact, a technical glitch prevented FBI technicians from accurately comparing the new emails with the old emails. Only 3,077 of the 694,000 emails were directly reviewed for classified or incriminating information. Three FBI officials completed that work in a single 12-hour spurt the day before Comey again cleared Clinton of criminal charges.

“Most of the emails were never examined, even though they made up potentially 10 times the evidence” of what was reviewed in the original year-long case that Comey closed in July 2016, said a law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the investigation.

Yet even the "extremely narrow" search that was finally conducted, after more than a month of delay, uncovered more classified material sent and/or received by Clinton through her unauthorized basement server, the official said. Contradicting Comey’s testimony, this included highly sensitive information dealing with Israel and the U.S.-designated terrorist group Hamas. The former secretary of state, however, was never confronted with the sensitive new information and it was never analyzed for damage to national security.

Even though the unique classified material was improperly stored and transmitted on an unsecured device, the FBI did not refer the matter to U.S. intelligence agencies to determine if national security had been compromised, as required under a federally mandated “damage assessment” directive.

The newly discovered classified material “was never previously sent out to the relevant original classification authorities for security review,” the official, who spoke to RealClearInvestigations on the condition of anonymity, said.

Other key parts of the investigation remained open when the embattled director announced to Congress he was buttoning the case back up for good just ahead of Election Day.

One career FBI special agent involved in the case complained to New York colleagues that officials in Washington tried to “bury" the new trove of evidence, which he believed contained the full archive of Clinton's emails — including long-sought missing messages from her first months at the State Department.
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Post by Giz » Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:06 am

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Re: The Schadenfreude Thread

Post by ed » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:48 am

Doctor X wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:40 am
Meanwhile, About Those E-mails:
At the time, many wondered how investigators managed over the course of one week to read the “hundreds of thousands” of emails residing on the machine, which had been a focus of a sex-crimes investigation of Weiner, a former Congressman.

Comey later told Congress that “thanks to the wizardry of our technology,” the FBI was able to eliminate the vast majority of messages as “duplicates” of emails they’d previously seen. Tireless agents, he claimed, then worked “night after night after night” to scrutinize the remaining material.

But virtually none of his account was true, a growing body of evidence reveals.

In fact, a technical glitch prevented FBI technicians from accurately comparing the new emails with the old emails. Only 3,077 of the 694,000 emails were directly reviewed for classified or incriminating information. Three FBI officials completed that work in a single 12-hour spurt the day before Comey again cleared Clinton of criminal charges.

“Most of the emails were never examined, even though they made up potentially 10 times the evidence” of what was reviewed in the original year-long case that Comey closed in July 2016, said a law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the investigation.

Yet even the "extremely narrow" search that was finally conducted, after more than a month of delay, uncovered more classified material sent and/or received by Clinton through her unauthorized basement server, the official said. Contradicting Comey’s testimony, this included highly sensitive information dealing with Israel and the U.S.-designated terrorist group Hamas. The former secretary of state, however, was never confronted with the sensitive new information and it was never analyzed for damage to national security.

Even though the unique classified material was improperly stored and transmitted on an unsecured device, the FBI did not refer the matter to U.S. intelligence agencies to determine if national security had been compromised, as required under a federally mandated “damage assessment” directive.

The newly discovered classified material “was never previously sent out to the relevant original classification authorities for security review,” the official, who spoke to RealClearInvestigations on the condition of anonymity, said.

Other key parts of the investigation remained open when the embattled director announced to Congress he was buttoning the case back up for good just ahead of Election Day.

One career FBI special agent involved in the case complained to New York colleagues that officials in Washington tried to “bury" the new trove of evidence, which he believed contained the full archive of Clinton's emails — including long-sought missing messages from her first months at the State Department.
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Re: The Schadenfreude Thread

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Re: The Schadenfreude Thread

Post by xouper » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:02 pm

Why is this in "The Schadenfreude Thread"?

Where's the Schadenfreude?

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Re: The Schadenfreude Thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:12 pm

xouper wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:02 pm
Why is this in "The Schadenfreude Thread"?

Where's the Schadenfreude?
This thread is for any Schadenfreude, not just for Democrats.

And nobody gives a shit about poor old Milo any more, least of all his erstwhile Republican buddies.

Milo ==> blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ....

World to Milo ==> :Mockering:

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Re: The Schadenfreude Thread

Post by xouper » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:28 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:12 pm
xouper wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:02 pm
Why is this in "The Schadenfreude Thread"?

Where's the Schadenfreude?
This thread is for any Schadenfreude, not just for Democrats.

And nobody gives a shit about poor old Milo any more, least of all his erstwhile Republican buddies.

Milo ==> blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ....

World to Milo ==> :Mockering:

:)
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Re: The Schadenfreude Thread

Post by Doctor X » Sun Aug 26, 2018 5:21 pm

Pyrrho wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:42 pm
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Re: The Schadenfreude Thread

Post by Grammatron » Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:03 am

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... nst-trump/
In a new interview with The Washington Post's Tom Hamburger and Rosalind S. Helderman, Davis is backing off two massive claims he made in recent weeks, including that former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen has told people he witnessed President Donald Trump being informed of Donald Trump Jr.'s 2016 Trump Tower meeting with a Russian lawyer before it happened.

"I should have been more clear - including with you - that I could not independently confirm what happened," Davis said, adding: "I regret my error."

Davis also backed off his claim that Cohen has information suggesting that Trump knew in advance about Russian hacking of Democrats' emails in 2016.

"I am not sure," he said. "There's a possibility that is the case. But I am not sure."

The first of these claims was put forward anonymously, initially in a story which CNN is standing by. The Post also reported it - though unlike CNN it didn't report Cohen as saying Trump knew the information was coming from Russians - and cited Davis as an unnamed source. The second claim was made publicly by Davis on TV.
Nice journalism.
It's also pretty remarkable that, despite the first of these claims having been in the public domain for several weeks now - CNN's story broke exactly one month ago, on July 27 - Davis only began reining it in last week. Why wait that long if it was erroneous? Did Cohen not notice he was being put forward as the guy who might be able to prove Trump's collusion with Russia - a claim that, if true, could end an American presidency?

The most obvious answer would seem to be that Cohen may be the one contradicting himself. Ever since the CNN story broke, the question has been whether Cohen told congressional investigators the same story when he testified behind closed doors at a time when he was more loyal to Trump. There were indications that this new version of events wasn't exactly compatible with that testimony, which could open Cohen up to more legal problems.

When Cohen reached a plea deal last week, the Senate Intelligence Committee's top Republican and Democrat made a rare joint, public statement saying they wanted Cohen to continue cooperating with their Russia investigation. They also said they had reached out to Cohen's lawyers after the CNN story broke and asked whether he wanted to amend his testimony. Cohen has declined to do so.

But you also have to think that possible contradiction would be something Davis and Cohen (who is also a lawyer by trade) would have sorted out before Davis went public with these claims.

However this came about, though, it's damaging to Cohen's credibility. Davis is his lawyer and spokesman, after all, which means these claims effectively came from Cohen himself. Davis is now trying to take ownership of them and take the blame himself, but the explanations he offers are really difficult to swallow, especially given the gravity of the claims.

And that has bearing on both the Russia investigation and whatever problems Trump may encounter from the Southern District of New York's plea deal with Michael Cohen on a campaign-finance violation (in which Cohen also implicated Trump). Cohen was supposed to be the guy flipping on Trump and telling investigators everything he knows about the skeletons in Trump's closet. This episode has to make everyone involved wonder whether his claims are all they're made out to be. Regardless of how you want all of this to shake out, it's best to base a case around people who won't undermine it. Cohen wasn't a fantastic witness before; he's a worse one now.

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Re: The Schadenfreude Thread

Post by Doctor X » Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:43 am

But it was Her Turn, Gram!

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Re: The Schadenfreude Thread

Post by shuize » Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:54 am

Grammatron wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:03 am
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... nst-trump/
In a new interview with The Washington Post's Tom Hamburger and Rosalind S. Helderman, Davis is backing off two massive claims he made in recent weeks, including that former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen has told people he witnessed President Donald Trump being informed of Donald Trump Jr.'s 2016 Trump Tower meeting with a Russian lawyer before it happened.

"I should have been more clear - including with you - that I could not independently confirm what happened," Davis said, adding: "I regret my error."

Davis also backed off his claim that Cohen has information suggesting that Trump knew in advance about Russian hacking of Democrats' emails in 2016.

"I am not sure," he said. "There's a possibility that is the case. But I am not sure."

The first of these claims was put forward anonymously, initially in a story which CNN is standing by. The Post also reported it - though unlike CNN it didn't report Cohen as saying Trump knew the information was coming from Russians - and cited Davis as an unnamed source. The second claim was made publicly by Davis on TV.
Nice journalism.
It's also pretty remarkable that, despite the first of these claims having been in the public domain for several weeks now - CNN's story broke exactly one month ago, on July 27 - Davis only began reining it in last week. Why wait that long if it was erroneous? Did Cohen not notice he was being put forward as the guy who might be able to prove Trump's collusion with Russia - a claim that, if true, could end an American presidency?

The most obvious answer would seem to be that Cohen may be the one contradicting himself. Ever since the CNN story broke, the question has been whether Cohen told congressional investigators the same story when he testified behind closed doors at a time when he was more loyal to Trump. There were indications that this new version of events wasn't exactly compatible with that testimony, which could open Cohen up to more legal problems.

When Cohen reached a plea deal last week, the Senate Intelligence Committee's top Republican and Democrat made a rare joint, public statement saying they wanted Cohen to continue cooperating with their Russia investigation. They also said they had reached out to Cohen's lawyers after the CNN story broke and asked whether he wanted to amend his testimony. Cohen has declined to do so.

But you also have to think that possible contradiction would be something Davis and Cohen (who is also a lawyer by trade) would have sorted out before Davis went public with these claims.

However this came about, though, it's damaging to Cohen's credibility. Davis is his lawyer and spokesman, after all, which means these claims effectively came from Cohen himself. Davis is now trying to take ownership of them and take the blame himself, but the explanations he offers are really difficult to swallow, especially given the gravity of the claims.

And that has bearing on both the Russia investigation and whatever problems Trump may encounter from the Southern District of New York's plea deal with Michael Cohen on a campaign-finance violation (in which Cohen also implicated Trump). Cohen was supposed to be the guy flipping on Trump and telling investigators everything he knows about the skeletons in Trump's closet. This episode has to make everyone involved wonder whether his claims are all they're made out to be. Regardless of how you want all of this to shake out, it's best to base a case around people who won't undermine it. Cohen wasn't a fantastic witness before; he's a worse one now.
Holy shit these people suck.