Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

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Re: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

Post by Anaxagoras » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:25 pm

Reminder: Trump's claim was that Obama tapped his phones. That's not what happened. Nor was it illegal. This is just moving the goalposts.
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Re: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

Post by Rob Lister » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:31 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:Reminder: Trump's claim was that Obama tapped his phones. That's not what happened. Nor was it illegal. This is just moving the goalposts.
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Re: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:27 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:Reminder: Trump's claim was that Obama tapped his phones ...
... personally. With his own two hands. Dammit!
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Re: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

Post by corplinx » Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:41 pm

Susan Rice, confirmed liar. (previously in this thread)

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James Clapper, confirmed liar.

Trump was right and the only explanation for these wiretaps is Obama trying to help the Hillary Campaign.

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Re: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

Post by corplinx » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:09 pm

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Re: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

Post by Rob Lister » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:14 pm

One is not the other but if they were wiretapping his campaign chairman and the campaign chairman is talking to Trump then one is the same. It is certainly a difference without much distinction.

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Re: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

Post by corplinx » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:33 pm

Harkens back to the "good ole days" of J. Edgar Hoover.

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Re: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

Post by gnome » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:51 pm

*Hair Splitter Man flies in with cape flowing behind him*

Was the FBI "Part of the national security apparatus that [Clapper] oversaw"?

Not a hair splitting question: Would Obama have access to the information the FBI collected about Manafort? Not saying he wouldn't. I honestly want to know how that goes.
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Re: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

Post by ed » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:19 pm

gnome wrote:*Hair Splitter Man flies in with cape flowing behind him*

Was the FBI "Part of the national security apparatus that [Clapper] oversaw"?

Not a hair splitting question: Would Obama have access to the information the FBI collected about Manafort? Not saying he wouldn't. I honestly want to know how that goes.
Mr. Comey, this is a matter of national security, please provide me with all records concerning that fucker Trump. I also have a FISA court warrant (which are very hard to get and if you get one you can restassured that whatever it is is legal).
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Re: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

Post by corplinx » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:11 am

corplinx wrote:http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... ine-trump/

Warning, Breitbart.

I'd like to see his source for the FISA requests, but it appears Obama tried to do a legal watergate.
This was the sixth post in this thread, but I would like to self-congratulate on hitting the nail on the head way back then while CNN was suddenly of the opinion that news needed sources/evidence.

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Re: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

Post by corplinx » Sun May 20, 2018 3:47 am

Wiretapped, and had an Informant on the inside.

When are people from the Obama era going to prison for this?

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Re: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun May 20, 2018 3:51 am

Prediction: Before long the Democrats will be openly admitting it and rationalizing it.
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Re: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

Post by corplinx » Sun May 20, 2018 3:56 am

They're already calling exposing their treason, treason. (Krugman)

And writing op-eds saying the spy was there to protect Trump (full 1984 there).

I think they just reached peak Orwell.

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Re: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

Post by corplinx » Sun May 20, 2018 3:59 am

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Or they just write whatever the DNC keeps telling them to.

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Re: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun May 20, 2018 4:05 am

No one believes CNN at all ay more.

At this point their lies are loyalty tests not attempts to deceive.
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Re: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

Post by corplinx » Wed May 23, 2018 11:00 pm

Rolling Stone is willing to be the Pravda on this one.

Look at this bs:
Since the New York Times reported last week that the FBI used an "informant" while investigating the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia prior to the 2016 election, the president has used increasingly superlative language in denouncing what amounts to standard operating procedure for the Justice Department.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/n ... an-w520669

NOTHING TO SEE HERE PEOPLE, JUST US SPYING ON A RIVAL CAMPAIGN UNDER A FLIMSY PRETEXT WHEN NO CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITTED SOP

The point is though, and every reporter in Washington should have figured out this simple logical conclusion by now... is that by spying inside Trump's campaign _and_ wiretapping him, they have already overplayed their hand. If there was collusion, it would have already been leaked. We would already know. Someone would be indicted for something other than white collar finance crimes.

They've led the public on a Red Scare that they knew was bullshit to begin with. So was it just a giant troll, or a seditious attempt to find something to overthrow the president?

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Re: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed May 23, 2018 11:21 pm

corplinx wrote: ... a seditious attempt to find something to overthrow the president?
That one, modulo that "seditious" is value judgement.
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Re: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

Post by WildCat » Wed May 23, 2018 11:49 pm

Every single one of Trump's claims turned out to be true. And you still see morons repeating DNC talking points that Trump wasn't spied on.

For fun watch them try to explain the difference between a paid informant and a spy.
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Re: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

Post by Grammatron » Wed May 23, 2018 11:55 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
corplinx wrote: ... a seditious attempt to find something to overthrow the president?
That one, modulo that "seditious" is value judgement.
Only if the value is on adhering to agreed upon definition of words

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Re: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed May 23, 2018 11:57 pm

It's not "really" "seditious" unless there is a prosecution.
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