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Post by Pyrrho » Tue May 23, 2017 10:53 am

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/poli ... e-47577060
The investigation began unfolding Friday, when Arthurs held two customers and an employee hostage at gunpoint at a Tampa smoke shop, police said.

Arthurs said he converted to Islam and was upset about American bombings in Muslim countries, among other issues, according to a Tampa police report. He is being charged with two counts of first-degree murder and other charges, and court records did not list an attorney for him.

Officers talked Arthurs into letting the hostages go and dropping his weapon, and took him into custody, according to officials. Police said Arthurs started talking about killing two people, and then he directed them to a condominium complex where the four roommates shared an apartment.

When they arrived at the apartment the fourth roommate, Brandon Russell, was crying and standing outside the apartment's front door in his military uniform. He had just finished duty with the Florida National Guard.

Inside lay the bodies of 22-year-old Jeremy Himmelman and 18-year-old Andrew Oneschuk. Both had been shot.

Investigators also found a cooler filled with bomb-making material, two radioactive substances and the Nazi propaganda, according to the FBI. Federal agents arrested Russell, 21, on Saturday on charges related to the explosives.

The FBI said Russell "admitted to his neo-Nazi beliefs" and said he was a member of a group called Atomwaffen, which is German for "atomic weapon."
FBI criminal complaint document:

http://www.seditionists.com/russellcomplaint.pdf
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Re: With friends like these, who needs enemies?

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue May 23, 2017 12:22 pm

Well at least we know racial profiling won't do the trick.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue May 23, 2017 1:04 pm

Not directly related to the OP, but fits the subject line:

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Post by Doctor X » Tue May 23, 2017 6:36 pm

The . . . fuck.

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Re: With friends like these, who needs enemies?

Post by gnome » Wed May 24, 2017 12:47 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Well at least we know racial profiling won't do the trick.
Profiling in general is a wasted effort if the profiled population is large and diverse.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed May 24, 2017 12:55 am

Oh I dunno. How large and diverse are the population of neo-Nazis who suddenly convert to Islam?
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Post by Witness » Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:02 am

Pyrrho wrote:http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/poli ... e-47577060
[…]When they arrived at the apartment the fourth roommate, Brandon Russell, was crying and standing outside the apartment's front door in his military uniform. He had just finished duty with the Florida National Guard.
There's a follow-up to the story:
Accused Neo-Nazi With Explosives, Guns Not a Threat to Community, Judge Says

An accused neo-Nazi facing federal explosives charges — and who authorities say threatened in online chatrooms to kill people and blow up infrastructure — was granted a request for bond after a judge said he was not a threat to the community.

Brandon Russell, 22, allegedly stored bomb-making materials at his Florida apartment, where authorities said they also found white supremacist propaganda and a framed photograph of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/acc ... ys-n771046

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Post by Pyrrho » Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:36 pm

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/judg ... e-48076568
A woman who sent her boyfriend a barrage of text messages urging him to kill himself when they were both teenagers was convicted Friday of involuntary manslaughter.

Juvenile Court Judge Lawrence Moniz found that Michelle Carter caused the death of Conrad Roy III. Carter cried as the judge explained his reasoning but remained stoic when the verdict was read.

Sobs broke out throughout the courtroom when the verdict was pronounced.

The judge ruled that Carter, now 20, can remain free on bail but ordered her not to make any contact with Roy's family and can't leave the state. She faces a sentence of probation to 20 years in prison.
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Post by Doctor X » Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:44 pm

Ah, just in.

She is a Cunt, and I had thought of creating a thread just based on this case.

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Re: With friends like these, who needs enemies?

Post by Nyarlathotep » Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:52 pm

Involuntary manslaughter?

Sending texts to a suicidal person telling them to kill themselves sounds pretty damned voluntary to me. Fuck this woman with a full sized saguaro cactus.
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Post by Doctor X » Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:41 pm

Massachusetts.

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Re: With friends like these, who needs enemies?

Post by ed » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:16 pm

So this chick was a licensed mental health professional? Or is it that if a person sends such messages and the object of those messages subsequently commits suicide that that person was ipso facto suicidal and the sender of the messages should have known? Do we appeal to precognition or something?

How does that work exactly.
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Re: With friends like these, who needs enemies?

Post by Rob Lister » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:33 pm

No. If convicted she will appeal and win. She is a despicable person, for sure. No legal offense that I can see.

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Post by ed » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:44 pm

+1

This sets a VERY low bar for responsibility.
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Post by Nyarlathotep » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:48 pm

For obvious reasons I have zero fucking tolerance for anyone urging anyone else to commit suicide these days. YMMV
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Post by Rob Lister » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:06 pm

This dropped off our radar. She was sentenced to 15 months jail and 5 years probation.

She is now appealing the case to the supreme court.
Suicide' Case
Michelle Carter's new attorneys say her "unprecedented" involuntary murder conviction was unlawful
http://www.newser.com/story/256137/mich ... ossed.html

I think they'll hear it. I think she'll win. She remains a cunt.