ed wrote: gnome wrote:
ed wrote:Why "wrong"?
It is a transaction between two adults. As long as there is no force it is ok.
Now, we can redefine the term "force" so that all sex is rape but I am not going there.
Certainly I would not redefine "force" as you worried, but I do not think we should limit the question to only physical force.
Let me step back a moment and ask if you accept the idea that a power imbalance screws up the question of consent in sexual relations?
It does but it also screws up all human interactions. Sexual relations are a subset. How many women get (got?) married for the power that the male wielded, power that would provide and keep her safe. You know, we are animals and women nest. So it is disingenuous to act surprised when you see sexual politics being played.
But isn't that the nature of being human? Even with ANTIFA there will always be one loudmouth who grabs the mike.
I don't know where people think I'm surprised. that keeps popping up for some reason but I've expressed no surprise.
I subscribe to the idea that being of such a personal nature, that sexual interactions have magnified importance-- it's just a matter of human dignity that it should be off the table.
"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight! Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little bit more about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor. Then, he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat, and then he beat the crap out of every single one. And from that day forward any time a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a zoo! (Beat) Unless it's a farm!"